Rick Santorum: "mainline Protestants aren't real Christians"

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by classicman

Thought for sure you'd get it after reading the "bills."
No worries. There actually were a few in there, but the majority were pretty much just BS.
Did you read the comments? I was shaking my head at times and literally chuckling at others.

The comments were the best part. I left one myself, but it hadn't shown up yet the last time I checked.

[ZenGum]

I keep thinking this thread is about Santorum mainlining protestants.

[Lamplighter]

I realize it has become repetitive, but Rick is not letting up.

CBS News
Leigh Ann Caldwell
2/25/12

Santorum: Church/state separation not absolute

I don't believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute,"
Santorum said Sunday on ABC's "This Week."

He was referring to a 1960 speech by then-presidential candidate
John F. Kennedy on religion and governance,
which Santorum said "makes me throw up."

"Because the first line, first substantive line in the speech says, 'I believe in America
where the separation of church and state is absolute," the former Pennsylvania senator said
"You bet that makes you throw up."<snip>

Kennedy gave the speech during his campaign for presidency
because of concerns about his Catholic faith.
He assured the public, including concerned Protestant leaders,
that he would not be "the Catholic candidate for President [saying]
I am the Democratic Party's candidate for President who happens also to be a Catholic."

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[classicman]

Look where it got Kennedy ...

[Lamplighter]

Sorry Classic, but you know (I hope) that religion had nothing to do with the assassination.

[classicman]

Oh ferchrissakes...

[Lamplighter]

Yes Classic, I know....
I've been quite impatient with the world these past few days.
No particular reason. Time for a hiatus from (or on ?) politics for me.

Take care... Peace.

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by classicman

Oh ferchrissakes...

That horse can’t be beaten enough. I remember all too well the times when abortions were illegal and birth control could be difficult for a woman to obtain. In college and high school I had teachers and professors who felt women were not equipped to study science and mathematics. In high school I had a chemistry teacher who believed that women's brains could not grasp the fundamentals of even introductory chemistry. The first day of class he would announce that no woman in the class would receive a grade lower than a "C" (since our brains didn't work like a man's). Nor would a woman receive a grade higher than a "B" (since our minds didn't work like a man's). Santorum is living proof that the old bigotry against women is still alive and well.

In Santorum’s 2005 book, "It Takes a Family: Conservatism and the Common Good," his opposition to contraception (as well as to abortion, even in the case of rape) seems part and parcel of a deep hostility toward women. Santorum has stated that " Life beginning at conception is not a belief, it is not an article of faith, it is an article of fact. It's a biological fact that life, in fact, begins as conception…”

Errr… wrong. All those little wigglers that we call sperm are very much alive BEFORE conception. And they can stay alive for a day or more. What an outrage that all those potential human beings aren’t provided an egg (also alive all by itself) to penetrate, so none of that DNA goes to waste and those poor little HUMAN sperm have to die. Tisk, tisk.

Santorum’s little diatribes may seem beyond the pale to most of you, but not all that long ago, abortions were illegal and women died in back allies at the hands of butchers, as a result. I remember those days. In Colorado, the only way a woman could get an abortion was if the woman’s life would be endangered by carrying the fetus to term. You either found an understanding shrink and told him that you would kill yourself if you had to have the baby (and thus went on record as being mentally unstable), or if a woman had the money, she flew to California which had just legalized abortions. And remember that back in the 60’s, it was shameful for a woman to have a baby out of wedlock – not like today where it seems like there are more single mothers than married ones. I knew several women my age who suffered terribly because of the laws against abortion then on the books.

In addition, Santorum has shown nothing but contempt for what his book called the "radical" feminist "pitch" that "men and women be given an equal opportunity to make it to the top in the workplace." Obviously, women should live at home and be supported by their parents until the knight in shining armor shows up to whisk her away and keep her pregnant and working in the kitchen. After all, the Bible says that. Somewhere.

Then there’s the book's dismissal of programs to help impoverished single mothers improve their job prospects by returning to school: "The notion that college education is a cost-effective way to help poor, low-skill, unmarried mothers with high school diplomas or GEDs move up the economic ladder is just wrong." Oh, really? So what are these women supposed to do? Work for minimum wage at some dead end job? How will they support their children on such low wages? I guess these women and children deserve what they get for not having a man around to support them. After all, the Bible says that. Somewhere.

Santorium’s world view is shared by the religious right who have already proved they can get out the vote, and by Southern state’s rights whackos like Merc. “Oh, Georgia (Alabama, South Carolina, etc.) are going to prove that the South can rise again by exercising their state’s “right” to make birth control and abortions illegal. Don’t think it couldn’t happen. It could.

So take your dead horse and ride him off into the sunset.

Sources:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/14/opinio...rum/index.html

http://www.womenarewatching.org/candidate/rick-santorum

[classicman]

nah. Its just the election year rhetoric. Seems to be in high gear already and it
isn't even March yet. Gonna be a long year and I'm not really looking forward to it.

[classicman]

WTF are you babbling about?
Santorum is never N.E.V.E.R. getting elected to anything... EVER.
Now stop wasting you breath.

[classicman]

10 Reasons Why We Will Miss Bush


Figured a little OBVIOUS levity was needed.

[Pico and ME]

How dare you belittle her response by saying she is wasting her breath.

Sam that was a great post.

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

How dare you belittle her response by saying she is wasting her breath.

Sam that was a great post.

Why, thank you, Pico!

Originally Posted by Classicnan

WTF are you babbling about?

I'm talking about what the women of my generation went through and how we fought to make sure our daughters and grand daughters didn't have to endure what we did. You can call that babbling if you want, but I am disappointed in you if you do.

Originally Posted by Classicman

Santorum is never N.E.V.E.R. getting elected to anything... EVER. Now stop wasting you breath.

Never, huh? Santorum was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives on behalf of Pennsylvania in 1990. Santorum was then elected as a United States Senator for Pennsylvania in 1994 and served there until 2006. Sure sounds like someone elected him to me - as a matter of fact you folks from PA kept him in office for what - 16 years?

Despite running in the bottom tier of candidates for several months in the current Republican primaries, he won the caucuses in Iowa, Minnesota, Colorado and the Missouri primary, and quickly rose to the top of national polls.

Given the current set of Republican clowns, plus the uncertain state of the economy, Santorum certainly has a chance in the 2012 elections. You are being overly complacent.

[classicman]

I didn't even read past the first line or two.
Her rant, however eloquent had nothing to do with my conversation with Lamp.
I didn't belittle her at all.
Again since YOU appear rather slow on what I said. Try to focus this time...
Santorum is NEVER EVER going to get elected to ANYTHING.

[Pico and ME]

So the fuck what. His message, the bullshit he spouts regarding women, needs to be challenged..