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TheMercenary · 03-27-2009, 10:27 AM

I am surprised that PETA isn't there to protest.

lookout123 · 03-27-2009, 01:29 PM

I support dropping PETA members from low flying aircraft.

TheMercenary · 03-27-2009, 01:31 PM

I support dropping them from really high flying aircraft. Really high.

TGRR · 03-28-2009, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I support dropping them from really high flying aircraft. Really high.

I support shooting them with harpoons. Really, really big fucking harpoons.

They should appreciate that. At least I'm not shooting whales.

Shawnee123 · 03-27-2009, 01:40 PM

Pico: thanks for posting the WKRP in Cincinnati tube. Classic!

classicman · 03-27-2009, 01:54 PM

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. Classic!

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat??????????

Why are you yellin at me again?

Shawnee123 · 03-28-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat??????????

Why are you yellin at me again?

Because you just never LISTEN.

Clodfobble · 03-28-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

Some things just should not be about profit. Medicine is one of them.

What about food? We all need food even more than we need medicine. Should the distribution of food be a non-profit model as well?

sugarpop · 03-28-2009, 10:46 PM

I don't think food should be taxed, and I don't like the way big agri-business has taken over and put small farms out of business. And I don't think water should be taxed, and I believe we deserve clean, pure water to drink, and pesticide-free food to eat. I don't really think it's fair that now we as a people have to either buy bottled water, or filters, in order to have pure water. WE didn't pollute the water, business did.

As far it being non-profit, I don't know. Working a farm is HARD, I know, my mother was raised on a farm and my uncle had a working farm. I really think that, over the past 30 years, profit has become such a motivating factor in everything that it has polluted the capitalist model. There is nothing wrong with making a profit, but there is something seriously wrong with making a profit at the cost of health, and fairness, and the benefit of society.

classicman · 03-29-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

I don't think food should be taxed,
And I don't think water should be taxed

So what do you think should be taxed? Where/how do you determine what should be from taxation and what should be taxed? Where do you draw the line?

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WE didn't pollute the water, business did.

What business did? Who the heck is running these big bad evil businesses and corporations that you keep referring to? Are they some sort of alien overlords or something? There are people making the decisions.

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I really think that, over the past 30 years, profit has become such a motivating factor in everything that it has polluted the capitalist model.

Wow! It started in the 70's or 80's then? What was the "motivating factor" before then?

sugarpop · 03-29-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

So what do you think should be taxed? Where/how do you determine what should be from taxation and what should be taxed? Where do you draw the line?

Maybe the necessities should not be taxed. You know, utilities, food, water.

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What business did? Who the heck is running these big bad evil businesses and corporations that you keep referring to? Are they some sort of alien overlords or something? There are people making the decisions.

Well gee, mercury certainly doesn't make it into the water supply all by itself, neither do other toxic chemicals and biological agents. And e coli and salmonella didn't make it into spinach and carrots all by themselves. In addition, drinking water also now has traces of pharmacueticals in it, probably from people dumping pills in the toilet.

http://www.sierraclub.org/cleanwater/
http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/society/waterpollution.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_pollution
http://www.nrdc.org/water/default.asp
http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/archive/x1574803042

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Wow! It started in the 70's or 80's then? What was the "motivating factor" before then?

I'm not saying profit hasn't always been a motivating factor, and that greed hasn't always been around. I am saying it has gotten out of control, at the expense of society as a whole.

piercehawkeye45 · 03-29-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

Maybe the necessities should not be taxed. You know, utilities, food, water.

Many states have groceries, prescription drugs and sometimes clothing exempt from general sales tax.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_t...te_sales_taxes

(look at shaded green)

xoxoxoBruce · 03-29-2009, 07:02 PM

Yes, but even states like PA that have no sales tax on food/drugs/clothing, have plenty of hidden taxes that drive the cost of those items. Of course it's better than the states that do both.

Undertoad · 03-29-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

Maybe the necessities should not be taxed. You know, utilities, food, water.

Bout 20 years ago somebody did a study of all the taxes that merely apply to a loaf of bread. Not the sales tax on the bread itself, but the fuel tax on the gas used to transport it from bakery to store, the tax on the phone call to place the order for it, etc. They found like 150 taxes that led to an increase in the price of a loaf of bread.

S'complicated

03-29-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

I really think that, over the past 30 years, profit has become such a motivating factor in everything that it has polluted the capitalist model. There is nothing wrong with making a profit, but there is something seriously wrong with making a profit at the cost of health, and fairness, and the benefit of society.

I wouldnt put it quite like that.

But I do think that deregulation over the last 30 years (Reagan, Clinton, Bush) has not always been in the best public interest.

03-27-2009, 10:27 AM	#1
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03-27-2009, 01:31 PM	#3
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I support dropping them from really high flying aircraft. Really high. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

03-27-2009, 01:40 PM	#5
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03-29-2009, 07:02 PM	#13
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Yes, but even states like PA that have no sales tax on food/drugs/clothing, have plenty of hidden taxes that drive the cost of those items. Of course it's better than the states that do both. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-28-2009, 10:46 PM	#9
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	I don't think food should be taxed, and I don't like the way big agri-business has taken over and put small farms out of business. And I don't think water should be taxed, and I believe we deserve clean, pure water to drink, and pesticide-free food to eat. I don't really think it's fair that now we as a people have to either buy bottled water, or filters, in order to have pure water. WE didn't pollute the water, business did. As far it being non-profit, I don't know. Working a farm is HARD, I know, my mother was raised on a farm and my uncle had a working farm. I really think that, over the past 30 years, profit has become such a motivating factor in everything that it has polluted the capitalist model. There is nothing wrong with making a profit, but there is something seriously wrong with making a profit at the cost of health, and fairness, and the benefit of society.

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