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Old 02-09-2009, 11:15 PM   #1
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PEOPLE are the only creatures on the planet to mess up that balance.
It's not just people mate. Throughout history there have been events which have really fucked things up for the animals, as well as the people which people have had nothing to do with.
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:24 PM   #2
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It's not just people mate. Throughout history there have been events which have really fucked things up for the animals, as well as the people which people have had nothing to do with.
Events, yes. But not other creatures.
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:17 PM   #3
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Cows too and all their "gas"
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:19 PM   #4
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Well I was thinking about ice ages, and meteor showers etc.

Cows and their gas could be directly attributed to humans. There wouldn't be so many if not for us.
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:26 PM   #5
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There are always fluctuations in the food chain.

People aren't always the reason animals go extinct.
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:33 PM   #6
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There are always fluctuations in the food chain.

People aren't always the reason animals go extinct.
I didn't say that.
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:34 PM   #7
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My mistake then. I thought that's what you meant when you mentioned the delicate balance of the ecosystem being upset.
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:41 PM   #8
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It's cool. I know things go extinct all the time without human interference, but I would call that nature correcting itself. Humans still have a HUGE impact on not only animals and ecosystems, but also other resources, like the way we are strip-mining everywhere we can. It's one reason why I am against marble and granite countertops.
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:49 PM   #9
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I'm with sugarpop on this one. I think even having five kids is way too many... or even two. When people say, "We're just replacing ourselves." I say, "Yes, but you're still here."
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:51 PM   #10
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So how many kids should people have then HLJ? Do you think we should stop breeding all together? Or just have one? China tried that out of course, and look at the human rights issues that resulted from that.
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Old 02-10-2009, 12:35 AM   #11
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So how many kids should people have then HLJ? Do you think we should stop breeding all together? Or just have one? China tried that out of course, and look at the human rights issues that resulted from that.
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Yes, you're right, Ali. China is running into all kinds of unanticipated issues, like an unbalanced male/female ratio (my wife thinks China will go to war just to balance this out).
Well, I think part of that stems from the fact that China is such a patriarchal society. Women are not valued, and so girl babies are not wanted. That resulted in all kinds of human rights issues.
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Old 02-10-2009, 12:20 AM   #12
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Yes, you're right, Ali. China is running into all kinds of unanticipated issues, like an unbalanced male/female ratio (my wife thinks China will go to war just to balance this out).

I think the only answer is to let the human race just fade away and the koalas can run things for the next few thousand years.
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Old 02-10-2009, 12:22 AM   #13
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Hmmm...koalas are pretty stupid animals you know. Almost as stupid as humans.

I think the mice will be happy to take over.
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Old 02-10-2009, 12:36 AM   #14
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Hmmm...koalas are pretty stupid animals you know. Almost as stupid as humans.

I think the mice will be happy to take over.
Or the cockroaches...
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:06 AM   #15
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Okay now I'm pissed. I read this morning that our latest California whackjob gets social security for some of her 14 kids, and foodstamps. This in a state so broke, that I can't get the tax refund, that I am fairly owed, for a month, and may get an IOU from the state even then
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