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Old 03-22-2007, 11:42 AM   #1
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i think clone user id's are a freaking riot if they're used responsibly.

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Old 03-22-2007, 12:01 PM   #2
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Not feeling guilty about having been born white is not racism.
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Old 03-22-2007, 12:04 PM   #3
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Not feeling guilty about having been born white is not racism.
The two "not"s cancel, leaving:
"Feeling guilty about having been born white is racism."

Interesting. And true
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Old 03-22-2007, 03:20 PM   #4
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The two "not"s cancel, leaving:
"Feeling guilty about having been born white is racism."
You've got your scope wrong...the first not is a negation of the subject, the second not is a negation of the object.

If it was a joke, it was almost funny.
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Old 03-22-2007, 04:12 PM   #5
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You've got your scope wrong...the first not is a negation of the subject, the second not is a negation of the object.

If it was a joke, it was almost funny.

Grant, I didn't mean that in the syntactical-grammatical-morphological double negative sense, but the implication is the same. It's like saying, for example, "If you don't eat my lunch, I won't hit you," which implies, "If you do eat my lunch, I will hit you." (Sorry, that's not a great example, but I'm hungry.)

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Old 03-22-2007, 04:22 PM   #6
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Grant, I didn't mean that in the syntactical-grammatical-morphological double negative sense, but the implication is the same. It's like saying, for example, "If you don't eat my lunch, I won't hit you," which implies, "If you do eat my lunch, I will hit you." (Sorry, that's not a great example, but I'm hungry.)
Hah, I completely misunderstood what you said the first time. Go me.
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Old 03-22-2007, 01:11 PM   #7
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Curling the tongue is a major skill. :p
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Old 03-22-2007, 01:18 PM   #8
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Curling the tongue is a major skill. :p
That's not an unpopular opinion.
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Old 03-22-2007, 03:08 PM   #9
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It's okay to express your pride to be white.
I have never understood why anyone would feel pride in their skin colour....pride in their culture, pride in the town they were born in, pride in their ancestry, I can understand.

I can kind of get my head around someone who has been treated with outright prejudice all their life, based solely on the colour of their skin, taking a perverse pride in their colour as a reaction to that. So, I totally get the whole 'black is beautiful' sentiment as a part of the civil rights movement: after all, that was a response to vicious, legally sanctioned racism (Jim Crow). But pride in being white? What are you kicking against?
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Old 03-22-2007, 03:21 PM   #10
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I have never understood why anyone would feel pride in their skin colour....pride in their culture, pride in the town they were born in, pride in their ancestry, I can understand.
It's funny they used to make us go to pep rallies to celebrate school pride as a kid, I never got that. Yay! We're better than the other horrifying public school down the road because our basketball team is better...
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Old 03-23-2007, 01:28 PM   #11
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I have never understood why anyone would feel pride in their skin colour....pride in their culture, pride in the town they were born in, pride in their ancestry, I can understand.
You might recall ... the last two times people got really proud over being German, there were some problems. We're not permitted to say things like that.

Pride of ancestry is another one of those "really only allowable to peoples of a medium tan shade or darker", at least here in America. Black Pride, Latino Pride, Assorted Flavors of Asian Pride, all laudable ... not so for any European culture, unless of course, you're Irish on March 17th ... or you're not but you just really want to get drunk.
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Old 03-23-2007, 01:32 PM   #12
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:16 AM   #13
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You might recall ... the last two times people got really proud over being German, there were some problems. We're not permitted to say things like that.

Pride of ancestry is another one of those "really only allowable to peoples of a medium tan shade or darker", at least here in America. Black Pride, Latino Pride, Assorted Flavors of Asian Pride, all laudable ... not so for any European culture, unless of course, you're Irish on March 17th ... or you're not but you just really want to get drunk.
I think you are confusing "pride" with "violence" and "repression". Nobody had issues with German pride, it was the violence and repression that caused problems. If the KKK didn't lynch black people, they wouldn't be despised. Same for repubicans.
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:56 AM   #14
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In my opinion governments are something that the human race could easily do without and in the course of time will grow out off.
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Old 03-25-2007, 12:52 PM   #15
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In my opinion governments are something that the human race could easily do without and in the course of time will grow out off.
I believe we'll eventually grow into a world-spanning government. At first it will be a loose consortium of corporations.
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