Obama's first failed appointment

Sure..you can criticize this lack of change.

I would hope you can also acknowledge the change resulting from the first EOs that provide greater transparency and accountability.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Sure..you can criticize this lack of change.

I would hope you can also acknowledge the change resulting from the first EOs that provide greater transparency and accountability.

I will believe it when I see it. I will believe it when Reid and Pelosi stop constructing bills that spen 850 billion dollars of tax payer money behind closed doors and push them through the houses of Congress. I will believe it when they stop telling me that jobs are going to be created when they are doing nothing more than spending on social programs that don't create jobs but further the idea that government is there to foster dependency. Change my ass.

Nothing like writing a review of a movie or a play before the final act!

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Nothing like writing a review of a movie or a play before the final act!

The first act has been written and performed.

Two weeks is the first act of a four year play?

Not in my theaters.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Two weeks is the first act of a four year play?

Not in my theaters.

No, the Demoncrats have controlled Congress for over 2 years. It has little to do with Obama at this point, other than his rubber stamp.

A 51-49 majority in the Senate for two years, with more minority (republican) filibusters than any time in history is not what I would describe as control.

[TheMercenary]

Come on now, you know it is not about numerical majority. It is about control over all committes, over all bills that come to the floor for a vote, you seem like a much more intelligent guy than that. Don't blow smoke.

Committee control is absolutely a benefit...but the number and content of bills that make it to the floor for a vote really doesnt matter if the minority has the numbers and uses parliamentary procedures to block their passage.

[TheMercenary]

The beauty of democracy I guess. It is a double edged sword.

The 111th Congress will be a far more objective measure to view the Democrats.

The House Dems are off to a shaky start (despite the lies or mischaracterization of Pelosi's new "rules")...the Senate Dems appear to be proceeding on the stimulus bill with a far more open mind and certainly not a rubber-stamp.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

The 111th Congress will be a far more objective measure to view the Democrats.

The House Dems are off to a shaky start (despite the lies or mischaracterization of Pelosi's new "rules")...the Senate Dems appear to be proceeding on the stimulus bill with a far more open mind and certainly not a rubber-stamp.

Filled with pork and other bull shit social agendas, not economic stimulus and job creation and promised. There is no mischaracteriztion of what Pelosi and Reid have been doing for the last 2 years. They owned it before, they really own it now.

In fact, the Democrats. in one of their first acts under Reid and Pelosi, enacted the most comprehensive ethics and earmark reform in the last 20+ years.

It doesnt go far enough for me, but again, its a start and more than we saw from the Republicans.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

In fact, the Democrats. in one of their first acts under Reid and Pelosi, enacted the most comprehensive ethics and earmark reform in the last 20+ years.

It doesnt go far enough for me, but again, its a start and more than we saw from the Republicans.

Really? Like this:

"The American people told us in the election that they expect us to work together for fiscal responsibility, with the highest ethical standards and civility.

"After years of historic deficits, this new Congress will commit itself to a higher standard: pay as you go, no new deficit spending. Our new America will provide unlimited opportunity for future generations, not burden them with mountains of debt.

Pelosi speech on 4 Jan 2007.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Really? Like this:

"The American people told us in the election that they expect us to work together for fiscal responsibility, with the highest ethical standards and civility.

"After years of historic deficits, this new Congress will commit itself to a higher standard: pay as you go, no new deficit spending. Our new America will provide unlimited opportunity for future generations, not burden them with mountains of debt.

Pelosi speech on 4 Jan 2007.

I would encourage you to read the Legislative Transparency and Accountability Act of 2007.

As I said, its far from perfect and not nearly enough for me..but far more than any recent Republican Congress.

Thats a fact.