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Griff · 01-03-2019, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sexobon

That's rather vague.

There are many ways to skin a cat.

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Originally Posted by henry quirk

If you're lookin' to waste time: go for it.

Example: Through non-violent protest, folks from my workplace were very successful getting curb cuts put in throughout the city and University making it possible for wheel-chair bound individuals to live regular lives and become less dependent.

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Originally Posted by richlevy

If you can explain what 'secually active' entails, I might consider it. If it involves secession then you're talking the 1860's.🎩

Ha!

henry quirk · 01-03-2019, 05:41 PM

"Through non-violent protest, folks from my workplace were very successful getting curb cuts put in throughout the city and University making it possible for city planners, architects, and concrete companies to make a buck offa taxpayers."

Flint · 01-03-2019, 05:51 PM

henry, don't you care about people in wheelchairs?

henry quirk · 01-03-2019, 06:04 PM

Nope.

Griff · 01-03-2019, 08:31 PM

I believe we are done. I've enjoyed our little talk.

henry quirk · 01-03-2019, 09:16 PM

xoxoxoBruce · 01-03-2019, 11:54 PM

Don't forget there are many people who are smarter, meaner, better equipped, and a better shot than you are. Always.

Flint · 01-04-2019, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

henry, don't you care about people in wheelchairs?

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Originally Posted by henry quirk

Nope.

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Originally Posted by Griff

I believe we are done. I've enjoyed our little talk.

This is why people get called Nazis.

Griff · 01-05-2019, 08:29 AM

Yeah, this is why I've evolved into more of a pragmatist. To become such an individualist that you oppose government assisting in the liberation of others makes no sense to me. Government exists, if you want good governance you have to engage with it. Libertarianism has become a way to convince people not to engage with their government assuring government which does not represent their interests.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-05-2019, 08:58 AM

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

Undertoad · 01-05-2019, 09:02 AM

Libertarianism is on the opposite side of the political spectrum of authoritarianism/fascism.

The good authoritarian idea is we make curb cuts because sidewalks should work well for everyone.

The bad authoritarian idea is that we hobble the "privileged" abled so that disabled people have "equality".

We need the abled to engineer, spec, and build those curb cuts. So hobbling them is a total disaster and won't lead to equality at all! Source: pretty much every authoritarian nation ever.

If we were rich, and had plenty of engineers, we could develop wheelchairs that could easily manage curbs and even climb stairs.

henry quirk · 01-05-2019, 10:04 AM

"Don't forget there are many people who are smarter, meaner, better equipped, and a better shot than you are. Always."

And some of 'em are in wheelchairs.

henry quirk · 01-05-2019, 10:06 AM

Heil Hitler.

henry quirk · 01-05-2019, 10:29 AM

"Yeah, this is why I've evolved into more of a pragmatist. To become such an individualist that you oppose government assisting in the liberation of others makes no sense to me. Government exists, if you want good governance you have to engage with it. Libertarianism has become a way to convince people not to engage with their government assuring government which does not represent their interests."

...equals...

Yeah, this is why I've evolved into a slave. To be a free man and oppose being turned into a resource for others makes me scared. Governors exist. And, since we all want to be on the governors' good side we should do as told. Libertarianism is 'bad' because it reminds people the governors are employees and governors don't like that. Libertarianism is 'wrong' because it highlghts the natural tension between those who govern and those governed, a tension governors very much want to eliminate so as to better 'govern' (rule).

...equals...

I've accepted my lot, which is to be bent over. Libertarians, with all their shennanigans, endanger my lube supply.

henry quirk · 01-05-2019, 10:30 AM

Yes, I am.

01-03-2019, 05:51 PM	#108
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	henry, don't you care about people in wheelchairs? __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

01-03-2019, 06:04 PM	#109
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	"henry, don't you care about people in wheelchairs?" Nope.

01-03-2019, 08:31 PM	#110
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I believe we are done. I've enjoyed our little talk. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

01-03-2019, 11:54 PM	#112
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Don't forget there are many people who are smarter, meaner, better equipped, and a better shot than you are. Always. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-05-2019, 08:29 AM	#114
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Yeah, this is why I've evolved into more of a pragmatist. To become such an individualist that you oppose government assisting in the liberation of others makes no sense to me. Government exists, if you want good governance you have to engage with it. Libertarianism has become a way to convince people not to engage with their government assuring government which does not represent their interests. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

01-03-2019, 05:41 PM	#107
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	"Through non-violent protest, folks from my workplace were very successful getting curb cuts put in throughout the city and University making it possible for city planners, architects, and concrete companies to make a buck offa taxpayers."

01-03-2019, 09:16 PM	#111
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162

01-05-2019, 08:58 AM	#115
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-05-2019, 09:02 AM	#116
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Libertarianism is on the opposite side of the political spectrum of authoritarianism/fascism. The good authoritarian idea is we make curb cuts because sidewalks should work well for everyone. The bad authoritarian idea is that we hobble the "privileged" abled so that disabled people have "equality". We need the abled to engineer, spec, and build those curb cuts. So hobbling them is a total disaster and won't lead to equality at all! Source: pretty much every authoritarian nation ever. If we were rich, and had plenty of engineers, we could develop wheelchairs that could easily manage curbs and even climb stairs.

01-05-2019, 10:04 AM	#117
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	"Don't forget there are many people who are smarter, meaner, better equipped, and a better shot than you are. Always." And some of 'em are in wheelchairs.

01-05-2019, 10:06 AM	#118
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	"This is why people get called Nazis." Heil Hitler.

01-05-2019, 10:29 AM	#119
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	"Yeah, this is why I've evolved into more of a pragmatist. To become such an individualist that you oppose government assisting in the liberation of others makes no sense to me. Government exists, if you want good governance you have to engage with it. Libertarianism has become a way to convince people not to engage with their government assuring government which does not represent their interests." ...equals... Yeah, this is why I've evolved into a slave. To be a free man and oppose being turned into a resource for others makes me scared. Governors exist. And, since we all want to be on the governors' good side we should do as told. Libertarianism is 'bad' because it reminds people the governors are employees and governors don't like that. Libertarianism is 'wrong' because it highlghts the natural tension between those who govern and those governed, a tension governors very much want to eliminate so as to better 'govern' (rule). ...equals... I've accepted my lot, which is to be bent over. Libertarians, with all their shennanigans, endanger my lube supply. Last edited by henry quirk; 01-05-2019 at 10:59 AM.

01-05-2019, 10:30 AM	#120
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." Yes, I am.

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