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Old 04-23-2008, 10:14 AM   #1
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I was underwhelmed by 1776 actually.

and audio books may count for entertainment, or even education, but not as reading.

Brianna: different strokes, ya know? the books we choose to read are highly personal.
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Old 04-23-2008, 02:21 PM   #2
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and audio books may count for entertainment, or even education, but not as reading.
do you just mean in the technical sense, or are you saying that listening to a book is invalid for some other reason? cuz i've done a good bit of both, and i don't see much of a difference.
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Old 04-29-2008, 01:45 PM   #3
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Bonk: The Curious Coupling of Science and Sex by Mary Roach

From penile implants to the role of the urethra in female orgasm, Roach covers the subject of physiological research on human sexual function through the ages (and today). It's interesting stuff, and she has a wicked sense of humor.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:46 AM   #4
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Cloud- 'twas joke.

Also, I like to name-call.

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Old 04-23-2008, 10:58 AM   #5
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not name calling if'n it's the truth!

but I do think the choice of books is personal--can't tell you how many times people have recommended books to me as wonderful, and I can't get into them.

maybe it's just that I have to choose. a bit stubborn, ya know?
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:04 AM   #6
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I was just wondering how so many of you guys here know about authors I've never heard of!! I feel very out of the loop here which is weird as I read nearly constantly (apologies to Dorothy Parker, Constant Reader column!)

Is it sci-fi/fantasy that you're all wild about? coz I hate that genre. too technical----I just want some hot sex in my book, ya know?
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Old 04-23-2008, 12:40 PM   #7
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Is it sci-fi/fantasy that you're all wild about? coz I hate that genre. too technical----I just want some hot sex in my book, ya know?
Philip Jose Farmer - Flesh

Not terribly easy to find, but a classic.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:05 AM   #8
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I undertstand what y'all are saying. I haven't even heard of most of the sci-fi authors, but that doesn't mean anything. I have tried to get into the fantasy/sci-fi books but it's not my cup of tea. I remember my friends raving about "A Wrinkle In Time" when I was young but I just couldn't get into it. It disappoints me, a little, that a whole genre(s) is out of reach to me. However, if the book were about hidden passages, haunted houses, witches who rode vacuum cleaners (The Wednesday Witch was a really funny kid's book) I liked it.

These days I prefer the slice of life type books (I mentioned this in another thread).

Then, I recommended Life of Pi to my brother. He's not a big reader, but I thought if I could just cajole him into reading until the "big event" or the "wtf" moment he would be hooked. He just couldn't make it that far, and I was like HUH? What is wrong with you?

Yes, to each his own. I always figure as long as someone reads something, anything, it's a good thing.

Edit: Hey, Bri!
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:09 AM   #9
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hmm. I am a lifelong SF and fantasy reader and fan. To a lesser extent, I also like romance, mystery, historical fiction, thrillers. I do read a lot of history and non-fiction, also, but for fiction--I don't like it to be too real. Present day, real drama--why would I want to read that? I live in the real world, I don't necessarily want to read about it.

I want to be taken awaaaaaaay!

. . . wait. that didn't come out right!
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:11 AM   #10
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Hey, Shawnee! I went to Glenn Helen yesterday! 'Twas brillig!!!

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Old 04-23-2008, 11:15 AM   #11
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Beautiful area. Haven't been for years. I wonder what will happen to the Antioch campus? Let's buy it and start our own school!

I love Yellow Springs! It's like the Key West of Ohio.

@ Cloud: I get that. I do like to be taken away, too. But, I have this obsession with human feelings, emotions, reactions, and the like, though. I am touched by reading about real people: screwing up, wanting acceptance, loving, learning, screwing up, feeling happy, sad, screwing up. It' s more about the depths of the writing and the words that pull me in. For instance, The Glass Castle was a brilliant memoir. That certainly was real life, but nothing at all like my life!
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Old 04-23-2008, 02:28 PM   #12
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oh, I don't mean that listening to a book is "invalid"--it's just not, technically, reading. I think the brain processes audio and visual input differently.

at least mine does--
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Old 04-23-2008, 07:04 PM   #13
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oh, I don't mean that listening to a book is "invalid"--it's just not, technically, reading. I think the brain processes audio and visual input differently.

at least mine does--
so, technically, yes listening to a book is not the same because the information arrives aurally instead of optically. ok. but the repeated comment that audio books don't count as reading is incorrect on any other level. When I listen to a book, I get at least as much information as I do when I read it visually. I still get the mental imagery that comes to me when I read. I hear all the words in the book. Your comment that the brain processes the info differently is based on what, exactly? If anything, I think listening to a book is better than reading it because your listening skills improve. In case you can't tell, I'm irked at your tone.
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Old 04-23-2008, 07:14 PM   #14
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maybe you have a right to be, I'm sorry. I just don't think it's the same.

Listening, to me, is much more passive. For example, if I, as a teacher, assigned my students to read a book, I don't think it would "count" if they listened to it, in the same way that reading Cliff Notes or something is not equivalent to reading the book itself.

I don't know--I'll have to think about it. I mean, it doesn't seem to count to me, but this is real life, not a test, and why should you care what I think anyway?

guess I'm just biased in favor of the printed word. I've tried audiobooks, but they seem slow and boring to me. But my commute is only 5 miles roundtrip!

(trying to dodge the irk)
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Old 04-23-2008, 07:55 PM   #15
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ah, your mom doesn't count.

how about braille? does that count? If I listen to a book and you read it, do you understand it better than I? jibbahjabah!
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