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Old 01-20-2008, 06:21 PM   #1
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Ali, you really piqued my interest on this topic with your counter argument. I have volunteered with these projects several times and know people who work on them well. They all told me the same thing - fish numbers overall increase with the added artificial reef. I understand that they are potentially biased, but I did a little research today as well and the overwhelming evidence points to an increase in both fish populations and in fish species.
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The Effects of Man Made Structures on Nearby Resident Fish Communities
Researchers: William Alevizon, J.C. Gorham and several graduate research assistants.

Project Number and Duration: R/LR-B-20, 1985 - 1987

Question: The classic debate over artificial reefs is whether the reefs increase fish numbers or merely concentrate fish in one place. Could a carefully controlled study of the impacts of artificial reefs on the fish communities in a Florida marine sanctuary help move this debate in one direction or the other?

Project: Researchers counted and identified the fishes living in a flat, sandy habitat in two six-hectare (14.8 acres) study sites in Looe Key National Marine Sanctuary in the Florida Keys. Next, they built two artificial reef groups, each consisting of 12 small PVC- and concrete blocks, near the sites. They then censused the fishes in the study sites every three months for one year.

Results: Of the five most abundant species - green razorfish, Hemipteronotus splendens, pearly razorfish, H. novacula, rosy rasorfish, H. Martinicensis, slippery dick, Halichoeres bivittatu and the sand seabass, Diplectrum formosum -- researchers saw no change in the total numbers of adult and juvenile fish on the sandy habitat, or in the proportion of one species to another, in the pre- and post-reef censuses. The researchers next took the project a step further, building a large artificial reef at the center of one reef group. Nine months later, numbers of all but one of the most common species had increased 100 percent - yet numbers remained unchanged on the natural reef group. Both the earlier and later results appear to demonstrate that, at least in this case, artificial reefs resulted in an increase in fish stocks rather than a concentration of existing stocks.

Impact: By demonstrating one scenario in which artificial reefs did not have a negative impact on surrounding fish populations, the results provided support to public and private efforts in Florida to develop new artificial reefs and enhance existing ones. Through studies such as this one, artificial reefs are coming to be seen as more than just convenient 'fish attractors' In a report on the project, Alevizon wrote, "...The rational use of manmade reefs may substantially extend our ability to protect natural endangered systems, by providing the option of increasing available suitable habitat."
There were several more that all concurred with this conclusion and only one that countered it.

This led me to wonder if it was different over there versus here?
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Old 01-20-2008, 06:27 PM   #2
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Alabama's Artificial Reef Program
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In fact artificial reefs can be created that over time will appear as natural reefs with similar communities of encrusting organisms and bait fish. As various encrusting organisms such as corals and sponges cover the artificial reef material, small animals take up residence. As these small animals become abundant larger animals are attracted and feed upon these. Yet larger fish are attracted to these and so on until a complete reef food web is created. At that point the artificial reef functions as a natural reef.
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Old 01-20-2008, 06:37 PM   #3
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I know they have dumped a bunch of old NYC train cars off our coast in the past.
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Old 01-28-2008, 10:05 AM   #4
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I know they have dumped a bunch of old NYC train cars off our coast in the past.
Not train, but subway cars as far as I know - found this link on it.
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Old 01-28-2008, 10:38 AM   #5
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The question is, do the reefs increase the fish population or just cause them to gather in one spot, making them easier to catch, rather than being scattered and harder to catch?
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Old 01-28-2008, 09:52 AM   #6
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Hi Ali,

Pardon me for not responding sooner. I just wanted to say thanks for the welcome

woohoo... now I have 2 posts!!!
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Old 01-28-2008, 10:52 AM   #7
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The data suggests that initially it draws fish from other areas and over time, as the reefs take hold in the environment, the reefs increase the fish population by creating a new place for smaller organisms and species to live and breed. This works its way up the food chain to larger species and so on.
Personally, it has increased the places to fish in my area - the older spots are still productive, but there are new ones now as well. To me, that indicates increasing populations. Thats the only personal experience I can bring to the issue.
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