Animal Farm - Page 7

BigV · 03-07-2012, 11:49 AM

Quote:

It works, and these kid have no hatred of math, no concept that there is a general conception that math is hard and boring. that is a self-fulfilling prophecy and it need to be buried. Learning multiplication tables by rote is what turns kids off from math. that and their parents passing on their hatred of doing math in school. Because it's boring.......

rAMEN!! Preach is sister!

Blueflare · 03-07-2012, 05:34 PM

When I was a child I did arithmetic recreationally. Yeah, I really knew how to live. I also read a lot.
It's by those two activities that I ended up being (if I do say so myself) a reasonably learned person with the ability to think and know my times tables and what an allegory is.
School was utterly useless and is 85% jumping through hoops and checking boxes, 10% realising that people with authority are almost invariably useless and don't care about you, and 5% trying to remember how to do percentages and the more complex maths. What is Sin, CoSin, and all that other stuff? What is Log? I used to press those buttons on my calculator to get the right answers, but I never understood what they meant.
School really is the most spectacular waste of time and resources.

footfootfoot · 03-07-2012, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueflare

When I was a child I did arithmetic recreationally. Yeah, I really knew how to live. I also read a lot.
It's by those two activities that I ended up being (if I do say so myself) a reasonably learned person with the ability to think and know my times tables and what an allegory is.
School was utterly useless and is 85% jumping through hoops and checking boxes, 10% realising that people with authority are almost invariably useless and don't care about you, and 5% trying to remember how to do percentages and the more complex maths. What is Sin, CoSin, and all that other stuff? What is Log? I used to press those buttons on my calculator to get the right answers, but I never understood what they meant.
School really is the most spectacular waste of time and resources.

Pfft! That's nothing. Our fearless leader taught himself the meaning of the word autodidact.

welcome Blueflare. You are in good company here. If you have a twisted sense of humor. If you have no sense of humor you are in almost good company here.

infinite monkey · 03-07-2012, 05:43 PM

When I was a kid I documented game results (like a detective game I had, etc) and kept records and compared.

Ha! Funny...that's pretty much what I do now.

Only without the fun and with the added Dragon Lady Boss.

Welcome Blueflare! Stay a while. Want a beer?

HungLikeJesus · 03-08-2012, 09:17 PM

Has tw taken over monster's account?

BigV · 03-08-2012, 11:23 PM

oh. em. gee.

Please. I don't want to play that game again.

ZenGum · 03-09-2012, 12:27 AM

Man, when ever calculators disagree - even the same brand - what hope is there for us?

BigV · 03-09-2012, 09:56 AM

Put your hope in learning arithmetic.

Lamplighter · 03-09-2012, 11:53 AM

It's not really possible to define "common sense",
but it is a step now included in our school's teaching process,
that was not specifically included back in my day.

My G-daughters homework includes making an "estimate"
before working out the details of the problem.
So when they get an answer, they have a way to ask
if it seems "about right" or "makes sense".
Likewise, keeping track of the "units" in so-called "word" or "story" problems
is a helpful part of getting the correct answer.

I don't know how long schools have been doing this,
but I think these are great "innovations" in beginning math,
and can be used later on with more complex problems,
to avoid stupid blunders... like misplaced decimal points, etc.
.

HungLikeJesus · 03-09-2012, 11:58 AM

I learned about keeping track of units in HS, and I think it was one of the more important things I've learned. But it has made me very intolerant of people who mis-use units (like saying crazy things like kW/hr when they mean kWh). I guess that should go in the mis-used thread.

infinite monkey · 03-09-2012, 11:59 AM

I learned about keeping track of eunuchs in HS too.

DanaC · 03-09-2012, 12:08 PM

Damn man, those crazy motherfucking eunuchs, was like herding cats, amirite?

infinite monkey · 03-09-2012, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC

Damn man, those crazy motherfucking eunuchs, was like herding cats, amirite?

Seriously. We're LOUSY with eunuchs around here. Lousy, I tell you!

HungLikeJesus · 03-09-2012, 12:13 PM

Why would you want to go around hurting cats?

DanaC · 03-09-2012, 12:17 PM

You mean the bird killers?

03-08-2012, 09:17 PM	#5
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	Has tw taken over monster's account? __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

03-08-2012, 11:23 PM	#6
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	oh. em. gee. Please. I don't want to play that game again. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

03-09-2012, 12:27 AM	#7
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Man, when ever calculators disagree - even the same brand - what hope is there for us? __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

03-09-2012, 09:56 AM	#8
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Put your hope in learning arithmetic. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

03-09-2012, 11:58 AM	#10
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	I learned about keeping track of units in HS, and I think it was one of the more important things I've learned. But it has made me very intolerant of people who mis-use units (like saying crazy things like kW/hr when they mean kWh). I guess that should go in the mis-used thread. __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

03-07-2012, 05:34 PM	#2
Blueflare Hand-of-Kindness Extender Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Suffolk, UK Posts: 130	When I was a child I did arithmetic recreationally. Yeah, I really knew how to live. I also read a lot. It's by those two activities that I ended up being (if I do say so myself) a reasonably learned person with the ability to think and know my times tables and what an allegory is. School was utterly useless and is 85% jumping through hoops and checking boxes, 10% realising that people with authority are almost invariably useless and don't care about you, and 5% trying to remember how to do percentages and the more complex maths. What is Sin, CoSin, and all that other stuff? What is Log? I used to press those buttons on my calculator to get the right answers, but I never understood what they meant. School really is the most spectacular waste of time and resources.

03-07-2012, 05:43 PM	#4
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	When I was a kid I documented game results (like a detective game I had, etc) and kept records and compared. Ha! Funny...that's pretty much what I do now. Only without the fun and with the added Dragon Lady Boss. Welcome Blueflare! Stay a while. Want a beer?

03-09-2012, 11:53 AM	#9
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	It's not really possible to define "common sense", but it is a step now included in our school's teaching process, that was not specifically included back in my day. My G-daughters homework includes making an "estimate" before working out the details of the problem. So when they get an answer, they have a way to ask if it seems "about right" or "makes sense". Likewise, keeping track of the "units" in so-called "word" or "story" problems is a helpful part of getting the correct answer. I don't know how long schools have been doing this, but I think these are great "innovations" in beginning math, and can be used later on with more complex problems, to avoid stupid blunders... like misplaced decimal points, etc. .

03-09-2012, 11:59 AM	#11
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	I learned about keeping track of eunuchs in HS too.

03-09-2012, 12:13 PM	#14
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	Why would you want to go around hurting cats? __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)