Wild West Politics? - Page 7

TheMercenary · 01-09-2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME

You caught me mid-change in my post, merc. I'm not entirely understanding your reply. Terrorists use force to try to get changes they want.

Yea, and we shoot drones at them. I am completely ok with a response to such acts.

Pico and ME · 01-09-2011, 03:02 PM

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I think those who were completely against where this government used the historical precedent of overthrowing a government by the use of force if that what it took to get the changes they wanted

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Terrorists use force to try to get changes they want.

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Yea, and we shoot drones at them. I am completely ok with a response to such acts.

So those people and politicians who use rhetoric involving threats of violence to change this government could be considered possible terrorists?

TheMercenary · 01-09-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME

So those people and politicians who use rhetoric involving threats of violence to change this government could be considered possible terrorists?

Not when they are American Citizens in a public place holding a sign during a protest. No. And no I don't believe that politicians are using "rhetoric involving threats of violence". Because people put a bulls eye on a state to indicate a target for political action or change is not a "rhetoric involving threats of violence". Politicians have been using bulls eyes in political discourse for years.

classicman · 01-09-2011, 03:03 PM

Many of his friends admitted/tweeted and said in interviews that he was LIBERAL, not conservative.
How is it that the liberals are still trying to blame this on the GOP?
No matter how badly you want to blame this on those you disagree with,
ignoring the facts will not change them.

wolf · 01-09-2011, 03:07 PM

We have less than 2% seriously and persistently mentally ill (off the top of my head).

About 10% of people have some diagnosable form of mental illness over the course of their lives.

Nirvana · 01-09-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

We have less than 2% seriously and persistently mentally ill (off the top of my head).

About 10% of people have some diagnosable form of mental illness over the course of their lives.

Are they republican or democrat?

tw · 01-09-2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

We have less than 2% seriously and persistently mentally ill (off the top of my head).

Wow. Vaccinations did that much damage?

lookout123 · 01-10-2011, 09:58 PM

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Wow. Vaccinations did that much damage?

This is the kind of petty shit that made me realize the cellar isn't what it was. Maybe it is, but it certainly isn't the kind of place i need to spend the kind of time i once did. the fact statements are accepted and/or ignored says a lot about the evolution of the cellar. the issues don't matter so long as we can shit on a few people and regurgitate our well known position pieces, right?

Pico and ME · 01-09-2011, 03:14 PM

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No. And no I don't believe that politicians are using "rhetoric involving threats of violence"

Merc, what do you suppose saying 'second amendment remedy' means? Or saying 'armed and dangerous' in the same sentence with 'Thomas Jefferson told us 'having a revolution every now and then is a good thing'.

TheMercenary · 01-09-2011, 03:42 PM

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Merc, what do you suppose saying 'second amendment remedy' means?

Sounds like someone co-opting and perverting their perception of what the Second Amendment actually says in an effort to add emphasis to a point of protest. Do I believe they are actually carrying a gun or are going to try to overthrow the government using armed force? No.

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Or saying 'armed and dangerous' in the same sentence with 'Thomas Jefferson told us 'having a revolution every now and then is a good thing'.

Sounds like people who are using their First Amendment right to make the point that historically, if TJ actually said such a thing, that they are willing to support armed revolt if the government continues down the path they disagree with. Do I think they would do it? No. They are doing what many people do with signs at political rallies, they are drawing attention to their point of view.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-09-2011, 06:33 PM

There's no way you can convince me this guy isn't making a threat, that he isn't trying to intimidate anyone that opposes him.

Personally, I don't take the threat seriously, because he, even with a hundred buddies, can't do it. Not with a thousand, not with a hundred thousand. The government, no matter which party is in charge, would crush them like grapes.

Besides, I know this is all a diversion, a dog & pony show. Something to distract you from what's really going on, while Big Money, through Karl Rove and the lobbyists, subvert our system in a meaningful, probably irreparable way.

Pico and ME · 01-09-2011, 03:23 PM

Ok. Time for me to take a breather from this.

TheMercenary · 01-09-2011, 03:35 PM

Oh they were cross hairs, but to claim that she meant it as a way to incite a violent act is BS.

TheMercenary · 01-09-2011, 07:17 PM

You forgot to mention Haliburton....

tw · 01-09-2011, 07:45 PM

How many automatic weapons are required to take out the Westboro Baptist Church. And its not my fault when it accidentally happens.

01-09-2011, 03:03 PM	#4
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Many of his friends admitted/tweeted and said in interviews that he was LIBERAL, not conservative. How is it that the liberals are still trying to blame this on the GOP? No matter how badly you want to blame this on those you disagree with, ignoring the facts will not change them. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-09-2011, 03:07 PM	#5
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	We have less than 2% seriously and persistently mentally ill (off the top of my head). About 10% of people have some diagnosable form of mental illness over the course of their lives. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

01-09-2011, 06:33 PM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	There's no way you can convince me this guy isn't making a threat, that he isn't trying to intimidate anyone that opposes him. Personally, I don't take the threat seriously, because he, even with a hundred buddies, can't do it. Not with a thousand, not with a hundred thousand. The government, no matter which party is in charge, would crush them like grapes. Besides, I know this is all a diversion, a dog & pony show. Something to distract you from what's really going on, while Big Money, through Karl Rove and the lobbyists, subvert our system in a meaningful, probably irreparable way. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-09-2011, 03:35 PM	#13
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Oh they were cross hairs, but to claim that she meant it as a way to incite a violent act is BS. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

01-09-2011, 07:17 PM	#14
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	You forgot to mention Haliburton.... __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

01-09-2011, 03:23 PM	#12
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	Ok. Time for me to take a breather from this.

01-09-2011, 07:45 PM	#15
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	How many automatic weapons are required to take out the Westboro Baptist Church. And its not my fault when it accidentally happens.

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