Obama spanks Wall Street.

[TheMercenary]

Come on now, Wiki is constantly updated and counter updated by people with political agendas. If you don't believe me ask UT about his experience with annotations on Wiki.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Come on now, Wiki is constantly updated and counter updated by people with political agendas. If you don't believe me ask UT about his experience with annotations on Wiki.

I know. But it is still a credible resource. And it appears that some people hold Clinton responsible while others hold republicans responsible. One thing is for certain, republicans are not interested in compromise. Never have been, never will be. Democrats always compromise.

[TheMercenary]

Got to run, you'all have fun.

[TheMercenary]

Typing slower is always helpful.

[Clodfobble]

"classic" liberal = American Revolutionary

[sugarpop]

D'OH.

There are a lot of liberals who own guns. I think the argument lies in imposing certain kinds of gun control measures so guns don't fall into the wrong hands, which is a reasonable thing to want. Conservatives don't believe any kind of gun control, and that is a shame. I don't know anyone who thinks we should completely get rid of all guns, and that no one should be allowed to have one.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

D'OH.

There are a lot of liberals who own guns. I think the argument lies in imposing certain kinds of gun control measures so guns don't fall into the wrong hands, which is a reasonable thing to want. Conservatives don't believe any kind of gun control, and that is a shame. I don't know anyone who thinks we should completely get rid of all guns, and that no one should be allowed to have one.

Define "wrong hands"?

I mean, I pretty much hate everyone I know, and I have managed not to kill any of my neighbors so far, right?

The way the amendment is worded, unless you have had your rights stripped by a felony conviction by a jury of your peers, you should be able to walk down the street with a flamethrower, if that's what you want to do.

[Aliantha]

Originally Posted by TGRR

I pretty much hate everyone I know

So do you go to all the local funerals and shit on graves? lol (Alluding to your comments about Bush of course)

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

So do you go to all the local funerals and shit on graves? lol (Alluding to your comments about Bush of course)

No. There simply isn't enough Metamucil.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TGRR

Define "wrong hands"?

I mean, I pretty much hate everyone I know, and I have managed not to kill any of my neighbors so far, right?

The way the amendment is worded, unless you have had your rights stripped by a felony conviction by a jury of your peers, you should be able to walk down the street with a flamethrower, if that's what you want to do.

Mentally ill people who go on shooting sprees. Kids who go on shooting sprees. In some of those instances, the people involved legally purchased weapons, even though they should not have been able to.

*edit to add* When the 2nd ammendment was written, we didn't have the same kind of weapons we have now.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

Mentally ill people who go on shooting sprees. Kids who go on shooting sprees. In some of those instances, the people involved legally purchased weapons, even though they should not have been able to.

*edit to add* When the 2nd ammendment was written, we didn't have the same kind of weapons we have now.

I could give you countless examples of extreme behavior by otherwise previously legally sane people. You know them as well. So what's the point? We just start to restrict Constitutional rights because of a few nuts when 99% of the rest of people are doing it all right?

[xoxoxoBruce]

The way the amendment is worded, unless you have had your rights stripped by a felony conviction by a jury of your peers, you should be able to walk down the street with a flamethrower, if that's what you want to do.

Flamethrowers are legal.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I could give you countless examples of extreme behavior by otherwise previously legally sane people. You know them as well. So what's the point? We just start to restrict Constitutional rights because of a few nuts when 99% of the rest of people are doing it all right?

How is it restricting anyone's Constitutional rights to require a reasonable waiting period and extensive background check before getting a lethal weapon? Or to require special permits for certain kinds of weapons? I'm sorry, but certain people just should not be able to legally purchase weapons, and most people have no business owning machine guns or certain other kinds of weapons.

I will go one step further though, and say the health care system is also at fault, because deregulation has tied their hands. Some people who have gone on shooting sprees should not have even been out in the general public because they had severe mental problems, and it was KNOWN they had these problems. But the law has been watered down so bad that it is almost impossible to hold someone against their will.

So it isn't JUST gun control issues that need to be addressed. does that make you happy?

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

Mentally ill people who go on shooting sprees. Kids who go on shooting sprees. In some of those instances, the people involved legally purchased weapons, even though they should not have been able to.

Dumbasses killing a family of four with their monster SUV. In some of those instances, the people involved legally purchased an automobile, even though they should not have been able to.

Originally Posted by sugarpop

*edit to add* When the 2nd ammendment was written, we didn't have the same kind of weapons we have now.

So what? When amendment III was written, we didn't have the system of barracks we have now. Would you like to erase amendment III?

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TGRR

Dumbasses killing a family of four with their monster SUV. In some of those instances, the people involved legally purchased an automobile, even though they should not have been able to.

And those people should be charge with vehicular homicide. Frankly, I think it's WAY to easy to get driving permits today, and many people are WAY too distracted to be behind the wheel of a car. I can't tell you how many times I have almost been driven over (I drive a Geo metro convertible, tiny car) by some moron in an SUV who is talking on a fucking cell phone not paying attention to their surroundings. IMO, I should be able to shoot their ass.

So what? When amendment III was written, we didn't have the system of barracks we have now. Would you like to erase amendment III?

Oh good grief. That is ridiculous and does not even deserve a response.