08ama!

[xoxoxoBruce]

Change

[TheMercenary]

Prior to the primary process kicking off Clinton had seemed the appointed one. If you follow the tone in a paper known for its liberal lean, The NYT, it is quite obvious that even the press followed this notion that she would be the nominee. I think there has been a shift in this tone as the primary process has evolved. They have discovered what many of us have been saying for a long time, Ms. Clinton is a divider and many people in the Democratic party really do not like her or her group of supporters. Much of her underbelly of power hunger has been exposed through the years. To me Obama brings a fresh face to the race. We need to remember that it is not so much who sits in the White House that matters, as it is that the people the individual surrounds themselves with are of quality and can advise to the appropriate course of action in times of crisis as well as calm.

[skysidhe]

yes haunting....someone else has that ....disturbing ...THING

When I ask people what comes after change nobody knows. Are we having change for change sake? Just ask'in.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I'm not even thinking about after change, I want to know what changes?

[skysidhe]

yes, exactly.

When I ask people "what changes?" they repeat the word "change" I say,"go on" they say "just that change" I say, "OK" one word isn't good enough for my vote.
The only people that can afford the ideal of change without substance is the affluent and that is where this movement is comming from . oh and the knee jerk reaction from the african american community to percieved racial attacks. 8 to 1 vote obama on the basis of skin color.

[deadbeater]

I'm sorry but the style of the handshakes over 'Change' look familiar. From what reference was the above picture? From '1984' or something?

[Pie]

The "Change" motto makes me think of this post at Cosmic Variance:

Still, as a physicist it bugs me. I can’t hear the motto without thinking: change in what direction? The reason why this is such a great political slogan is because anyone can project onto it whatever kind of “change” they most prefer. But it’s highly unlikely that generic change would be a good thing. In the phase space of political configurations, one must imagine that the subspace of “good” configurations (however you want to define them) is one of fairly low-entropy — there are far more ways to have an ineffective or actively dangerous government than to have a good one.

If that’s true, and you just adopt “change” as your motto, you are far more likely to make things worse than to make them better. It’s just the Second Law of Political Dynamics, people.

I'm still supporting Obama, though.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Pie

I'm still supporting Obama, though.

After all that discussion and then your conclusion, wanna elaborate on why, please.

[Pie]

Simple. I'm a liberal, leftist-pinko-commie. :p

Oh, you mean "Why not Clinton?"
She's too tuned into the poll-of-the-moment. I still haven't forgiven her for voting to approve Bush's invasion of Iraq.

I also like the externally-apparent political symbol embodied in electing a president with the middle name "Hussein".

I haven't heard him saying too much I disagree with (yet), so what's not to like?

[classicman]

I didn't say there was or wasn't. I was just curious about your opinion.

[xoxoxoBruce]

The above caption is from the Aspen Times Weekly.
The column is a good example of the venom Hillery attracts.
Here's the end of the column....

He also votes, and the Angry White Man loathes Hillary Clinton. Her voice reminds him of a shovel scraping a rock. He recoils at the mere sight of her on television. Her very image disgusts him, and he cannot fathom why anyone would want her as their leader. It’s not that she is a woman. It’s that she is who she is. It’s the liberal victim groups she panders to, the “poor me” attitude that she represents, her inability to give a straight answer to an honest question, his tax dollars that she wants to give to people who refuse to do anything for themselves.

There are many millions of Angry White Men. Four million Angry White Men are members of the National Rifle Association, and all of them will vote against Hillary Clinton, just as the great majority of them voted for George Bush.

He hopes that she will be the Democratic nominee for president in 2008, and he will make sure that she gets beaten like a drum.

[classicman]

Shit, I didn't realize I was an "Angry White Man." I am usually a pretty happy go lucky sort.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by classicman

Shit, I didn't realize I was an "Angry White Man." I am usually a pretty happy go lucky sort.

Did you check out the link to see if you fit the rest of the profile?

[slang]

I've been a AWM for a long time now. The article describes why when I can't express those same thoughts and beliefs many times.

"The victimhood syndrome buzzwords — “disenfranchised,” “marginalized” and “voiceless” — don’t resonate with him"

Add "entitlement".

[classicman]

The Angry White Man is not a metrosexual, a homosexual or a victim. Nobody like him drowned in Hurricane Katrina — he got his people together and got the hell out, then went back in to rescue those too helpless and stupid to help themselves, often as a police officer, a National Guard soldier or a volunteer firefighter.

Women either love him or hate him, but they know he’s a man, not a dishrag. If they’re looking for someone to walk all over, they’ve got the wrong guy. He stands up straight, opens doors for women and says “Yes, sir” and “No, ma’am.”

He might be a Republican and he might be a Democrat; he might be a Libertarian or a Green. He knows that his wife is more emotional than rational, and he guides the family in a rational manner.

He’s not a racist, but he is annoyed and disappointed when people of certain backgrounds exhibit behavior that typifies the worst stereotypes of their race. He’s willing to give everybody a fair chance if they work hard, play by the rules and learn English.

Well, I hate to say it, but I fit a lot of this profile. I may not be the rugged ruff & tumble guy, but I do my share - aside from that I think the auther is pretty much describing me.
Now that I know the problem - what is the cure?