Guns will protect you from tsunamis. - Page 7

piercehawkeye45 · 01-01-2007, 06:41 PM

What if your freedoms inflict on my freedoms? Or my freedoms inflict on yours?

01-01-2007, 07:09 PM

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What if your freedoms inflict on my freedoms? Or my freedoms inflict on yours?

Can you please make this make sense?

Urbane Guerrilla · 01-02-2007, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

What if your freedoms inflict on my freedoms? Or my freedoms inflict on yours?

This sort of question gets answered empirically in our Republic weekly if not daily. The results have been largely satisfactory these 230 years, counting from 1776, or 217 counting from 1789's adoption of the Constitution.

Aliantha · 01-01-2007, 06:50 PM

I'm not complaining rkz. I'm arguing a point. There's a difference.

Anyway, I'm sure if I lived in the US I'd want to carry a gun too, so go ahead and do what you want along with the likes of UG and MaggieL et al.

Urbane Guerrilla · 01-02-2007, 02:24 AM

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Anyway, I'm sure if I lived in the US I'd want to carry a gun too, so go ahead and do what you want along with the likes of UG and MaggieL et al.

And we'd probably enjoy an afternoon at the shooting range with you if you did live here, making noise and holes in paper.

MaggieL · 01-02-2007, 03:07 PM

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Anyway, I'm sure if I lived in the US I'd want to carry a gun too...

And if you lived in the US, you'd be allowed to.

Probably.

Aliantha · 01-01-2007, 07:15 PM

It means, that if your idea of freedom conflicts with his therefor one of you will not be free if the other is.

01-02-2007, 03:30 PM

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It means, that if your idea of freedom conflicts with his therefor one of you will not be free if the other is.

You sound like the PMRC.

Aliantha · 01-02-2007, 06:16 PM

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You sound like the PMRC.

What is that?

Also, remember I was only clarifying a point which someone had trouble understanding.

wolf · 01-03-2007, 02:07 AM

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What is that?

PMRC aka "The Mothers of Prevention."

(warning, small, but naughy bits exposed, picture of Rage Against the Machine toward the bottom of the page)

wolf · 01-02-2007, 01:07 AM

How does my owning and carrying a gun, without any intent to harm anyone who isn't trying to harm me, conflict with anyone else's freedom?

01-02-2007, 04:48 AM

JayMcGee · 01-02-2007, 06:57 PM

not strong, just well-armed.........

yesman065 · 01-02-2007, 11:15 PM

MaggieL I guess my point was completely missed. Then again you are so sure of what you think that there is no longer any discussion of other opinions. Just so I'm not accused of ignoring your points I'll respond.

1) No society is composed of Joe Average - but the laws should be designed to benefit the many, not the few.
2) I planned on taking my son out to a local club for firearms safety training, but decided against it for a number of reasons.
3) I meant accidents, as in a child or other person unfamiliar with firearms getting their hands on one. Like one of my children or their friends, nieces, nephews, neighbors - whomever. Nothing more "sinister" no need to be paranoid.
BTW, I still respect your opinion, but expected more from you than simply disparaging remarks toward mine.

MaggieL · 01-03-2007, 01:56 PM

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1) No society is composed of Joe Average - but the laws should be designed to benefit the many, not the few.

And uncessesary laws shouldn't be designed at all, they should be forgotten.

Joe Average may be Christian, shall we forbid all other religions? Or only shall we only require that someone show a "realistic purpose" to their religion, and prove that they're not going to go "a bit overboard"?

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2) I planned on taking my son out to a local club for firearms safety training, but decided against it for a number of reasons.

Why?

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3) I meant accidents, as in a child or other person unfamiliar with firearms getting their hands on one. Like one of my children or their friends, nieces, nephews, neighbors - whomever. Nothing more "sinister" no need to be paranoid.

I don't think I'm being paranoid, I just wanted to know why you put quotes around the word, surely a reasonable question. Why did you do that?

"I wanted to avoid accidents." carries a very different meaning from "I wanted to avoid 'accidents'"; your use of scare quotes carries the implication that what you feared wouldn't actually be accidental.

01-01-2007, 06:50 PM	#4
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I'm not complaining rkz. I'm arguing a point. There's a difference. Anyway, I'm sure if I lived in the US I'd want to carry a gun too, so go ahead and do what you want along with the likes of UG and MaggieL et al. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

01-01-2007, 07:15 PM	#7
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	It means, that if your idea of freedom conflicts with his therefor one of you will not be free if the other is. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

01-02-2007, 01:07 AM	#11
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	How does my owning and carrying a gun, without any intent to harm anyone who isn't trying to harm me, conflict with anyone else's freedom? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

01-02-2007, 06:57 PM	#13
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	not strong, just well-armed......... __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

01-01-2007, 06:41 PM	#1
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	What if your freedoms inflict on my freedoms? Or my freedoms inflict on yours?

01-02-2007, 11:15 PM	#14
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	MaggieL I guess my point was completely missed. Then again you are so sure of what you think that there is no longer any discussion of other opinions. Just so I'm not accused of ignoring your points I'll respond. 1) No society is composed of Joe Average - but the laws should be designed to benefit the many, not the few. 2) I planned on taking my son out to a local club for firearms safety training, but decided against it for a number of reasons. 3) I meant accidents, as in a child or other person unfamiliar with firearms getting their hands on one. Like one of my children or their friends, nieces, nephews, neighbors - whomever. Nothing more "sinister" no need to be paranoid. BTW, I still respect your opinion, but expected more from you than simply disparaging remarks toward mine.

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