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Old 05-02-2007, 09:35 AM   #91
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:15 AM   #92
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HLJ, in post #76 you said you and you wife use 700 gallons of gas to go 24000 miles/year. That's 34 mpg average. If you in your Insight are getting an average of 66mpg, and your Ranger is getting 18 mpg (but is very rarely used) what does your wife drive?

If you drive 1/2 of the time in your insight, 12,000 miles @66 mpg = 181 gallons of gas. 700-181=519. 2000 miles in the ranger = 111 gallons. 519-111= 408. 408 gallons of gas to drive 10000 miles would mean your third car gets 24.5mpg. What is it?
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:18 AM   #93
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Of course the Tappet Bros (Car Talk) provided a good example why some should not pump gas. As the lady opened her gas cap, her jewelry may have static sparked to the car causing a massive flame to flash out in air above her. New tires not using carbon black may create a static electric problem for cars. Maybe don't wear jewelry when pumping gas? Or go to Jersey.
Why of course that is such a huge issue in the other 49 states...
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:21 AM   #94
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Unions? Unions owned gas stations? Talk about BS.
Yea, pretty much BS. But it was a state law as I recall, I haven't been there in years, therefore it is political.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:34 AM   #95
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HLJ, in post #76 you said you and you wife use 700 gallons of gas to go 24000 miles/year. That's 34 mpg average. If you in your Insight are getting an average of 66mpg, and your Ranger is getting 18 mpg (but is very rarely used) what does your wife drive?

If you drive 1/2 of the time in your insight, 12,000 miles @66 mpg = 181 gallons of gas. 700-181=519. 2000 miles in the ranger = 111 gallons. 519-111= 408. 408 gallons of gas to drive 10000 miles would mean your third car gets 24.5mpg. What is it?
LR, it's more complicated than that. I don't want to bore you with the details, but here is the break down:
Subaru 9,000 miles/yr @ 26 mpg = 346 gal/yr
Insight 9,000 miles/yr @ 67 mpg = 134 gal/yr
Ranger 2,000 miles/yr @ 18 mpg = 111 gal/yr
MR2 2,000 miles/yr @ 30 mpg = 67 gal/yr
Motorcycle 2,000 miles/yr @ 60 mpg = 33 gal/yr
Total ~700 gal/yr

All figures are approximate.

Notice that the Ranger uses almost as much gas as the Insight for much fewer miles. I try to drive that as little as possible. We also drive the Subaru too much, but the weather here is very unpredictable (we had 2-and-a-half feet of wet snow last Tuesday). Neither the Insight nor the MR2 (nor motorcycles) do well in snow.

The combined average fuel economy, based on the listed annual milage, is 34.7 mpg. My goal for the next 12 months is to get total fuel use down to 600 gallons for both of us, by driving less miles in the low-mileage vehicles and by driving less overall.
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:02 PM   #96
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Complicated and thorough is better than vague and sketchy

Thanks for the clarification.

edited to add:
Oh, and I did notice the ranger almost = the insight, as it made me check my math before I posted...
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:08 PM   #97
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My brother forwarded me this e-mail:

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NO GAS ...On May 15th 2007

Don't pump gas on may 15th

in April 1997, there was a "gas out" conducted nationwide in protest of gas prices. Gasoline prices dropped 30 cents a gallon overnight.

On May 15th 2007, all internet users are to not go to a gas station in protest of high gas prices. Gas is now over $3.00 a gallon in most places.

There are 73,000,000+ American members currently on the internet network,
and the average car takes about 30 to 50 dollars to fill up.

If all users did not go to the pump on the 15th, it would take $2,292,000,000.00 (that's almost 3 BILLION) out of the oil companys pockets for just one day, so please do not go to the gas station on May 15th and lets try to put a dent in the Middle Eastern oil industry for at least one day.

If you agree (which I ca nt see why you wouldnt) resend this to all your contact list. With it saying, ''Don't pump gas on May 15th"
Sounds nice, but of course, it's an urban legend.
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:42 PM   #98
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May 15th catch a ride with someone to work, offer someone a ride to work, try the bus, walk to the library whatever. That will do a lot more...

Me, it's my 8th anniversary so we'll be saving enenrgy by dining by candlelight and sharing a shower...

If all the women in the US and Canada switched to rechargeable batteries in their vibrators, how many square acres of landfill could be spared?

Edited to remove 'single' from the last sentance since Bruce is probably right...

BTW, how do you do the cool strikethru text?
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Old 05-02-2007, 01:06 PM   #99
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Probably less acreage than if the married women switched to rechargables.
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Old 05-02-2007, 01:28 PM   #100
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May 15th catch a ride with someone to work, offer someone a ride to work, try the bus, walk to the library whatever. That will do a lot more...

Me, it's my 8th anniversary so we'll be saving enenrgy by dining by candlelight and sharing a shower...

If all the women in the US and Canada switched to rechargeable batteries in their vibrators, how many square acres of landfill could be spared?

Edited to remove 'single' from the last sentance since Bruce is probably right...

BTW, how do you do the cool strikethru text?
LR - your post makes a lot more sense than the "Don't buy gas on..." message, which seems to go around every time prices rise (sycamore, thanks for exposing that). There is definitely some bad logic there.

I think that whatever fossil energy you save by dining by candlelight will be exceeded by the human energy expended.
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Old 05-02-2007, 02:08 PM   #101
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Lab, by typing the following all together: < strike > word </strike>

UT, it doesn't seem to be working though. I've tried to do it in SeaMonkey and IE to no effect.
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Old 05-02-2007, 02:16 PM   #102
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Probably less acreage than if the married women switched to rechargables.
Or used a plug-in. Or even just had sex with ME.
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:09 PM   #103
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:33 PM   #104
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AH. Merci beaucoup...
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:47 PM   #105
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Or used a plug-in. Or even just had sex with ME.
(Shawnee runs away, scared by the thought of something that plugs into an electrical outlet being plugged into...well, YOU KNOW.)

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