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The police response was incredibly fast. 8 minutes from the first 999 call to all three terrorists dead.
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"Fuck you I'm Millwall" is awesome. For the first time ever.
...and I love the magazine touch
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Of course the circumstances matter. If I'm between the knives and my children, "Running away is right out."
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A Millwall fan with a gun would be scary
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I'm not sure I could live with myself if I ran. Then again, I don't got that much to live for anyway. May be the ol' fight-or-flight acting up. Quote:
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Running away is probably a better option given the potential for an attacker to have explosives on them.
Running away allows the police more space to do their job. They can't open fire on a terrorist if they're surrounded by civilians.
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A little push back on the not running, I see.
Ya don't have to stand yer ground. You are perfectly free to be just another victim. Myself, though, Ima die fighting back, thanks.
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I think the general idea is to minimise the number of casualties as much as possible.
There may be circumstances where running isn't an option - or where by not running you might be able to help someone else, or slow down the attackers - but in general I think most people getting out of the way so the police can do their thing is probably a good idea. The people who did fight back probably saved some others' lives, and they clearly slowed their progress which was no doubt a good thing - but I think it's probably also a good thing that it wasn't more people fighting them - because at that point, what's needed is a clear shot.
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I see no problem, "You brought a knife to a gun fight? Fuck you, I'm an American!"
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I would say that the inadequacy of proficiency of the typical police officer is dwarfed by the inadequacy of the typical member of "ourselves" .
I think you've slyly changed definitions of "ourselves" in your post there. First you suggest the people who run are thoughtlessly increasing the hazard by running. Then by the end you say we, ourselves can do better. Which is it?
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You can remove yourself from the immediate area (hopefully) and reduce the chances of being caught in the blast should that explosive belt go off.
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Those planning on using explosives don't generally tip their hand to give people a chance to run. It would be counter productive. Should it happen, be sure to post it in monster's Idiot of The Day thread. |
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I would however point out that Londoners (and most major city dwellers) have been asked, and advised in the strongest terms, in the event of an incident: run, hide and tell. Get away from the centre of violence if you can. Take cover as best you can. Contact the emergency services asap. If you watch the footage - much of that running away was not a panicked mob - some people were still carrying their drinks. Closer to where the violence was unfolding, there was more panic - but at that stage, what you have is a state of confusion of what the attack actually is - do they have guns, how many of them are there, is someone going to detonate explosives. So close to the Manchester bombing where a suicide bomber detonated his backpack in a crowd of people. Quote:
A former soldier might have enough experience of battlefield thinking to make a quick determination of whether that belt is likely to be a bluff in a particular situation, but your average civilian really isn't going to be able to make that call. Who the fuck knows what is going on in the mind of the person wearing that belt - if it's a bomb belt, are they waiting for a signal/? Are they waiting to coordinate attacks? are they waiting until they are about to be captured so they can detonate it rather than be taken alive? There are all sorts of reasons an attacker might not immediately detonate a bomb.
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