The slippery slope - Page 7

Ibby · 07-12-2006, 09:12 AM

That's where we disagree, tw. If it's private it's private. If I own a restaurant, it is MY property, and I get to be the sole judge of who may come in. If I open it to the public, it's still MY property, and I'm STILL deciding who can and cant come in, but the decision is that anyone can. Thats the only difference.

Happy Monkey · 07-12-2006, 10:51 AM

What is your position on OSHA, health inspections, and handicap accessibility on your private property?

Ibby · 07-12-2006, 11:03 AM

I would agree to them all weather I had to or not, because I can completely see the point.

I personally probably WOULDN'T allow smoking in my restaurant, I just don't think that decision should rest with the government.

Happy Monkey · 07-12-2006, 11:22 AM

But do you agree with the ones I menioned being mandatory?

Ibby · 07-12-2006, 11:29 AM

Well none of those inconvenience anybody at all by being enforced, so I guess I dont have a problem with them.

BigV · 07-12-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff

My recent trip to the ER, which is in New York, involved walking around a knot of tobacco fiend health care workers who've been pushed out on the sidewalk. As addicts they should probably invoke ADA and get a ventilated room

I don't know if the ADA was invoked, but at Children's Hospital where I volunteer, there are ventilated rooms reserved for smoking. They're called Butt-Huts. True story.

Clodfobble · 07-12-2006, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram

Well none of those inconvenience anybody at all by being enforced, so I guess I dont have a problem with them.

Except the owner of the establishment, who has to pay for the extra toilet stalls, and the wheelchair ramps, and the safety equipment in the kitchens.

Happy Monkey · 07-12-2006, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram

Well none of those inconvenience anybody at all by being enforced, so I guess I dont have a problem with them.

They certainly do! It costs a lot of money to be in compliance with all of the various regulations of public accomodations, especially restaurants. Comparatively, a smoking ban is extremely easy for the property owner - put up a few signs, and toss the ashtrays.

9th Engineer · 07-12-2006, 09:18 PM

There are plenty of other laws and restrictions we put on what restaurant owners can do in their establishments. Remember when they wouldn't allow blacks in? What if an owner decides that his business will increase if he doesn't serve mexicans? We decide for him who he serves.

07-12-2006, 09:12 AM	#91
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	That's where we disagree, tw. If it's private it's private. If I own a restaurant, it is MY property, and I get to be the sole judge of who may come in. If I open it to the public, it's still MY property, and I'm STILL deciding who can and cant come in, but the decision is that anyone can. Thats the only difference. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

07-12-2006, 10:51 AM	#92
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	What is your position on OSHA, health inspections, and handicap accessibility on your private property? __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

07-12-2006, 11:03 AM	#93
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	I would agree to them all weather I had to or not, because I can completely see the point. I personally probably WOULDN'T allow smoking in my restaurant, I just don't think that decision should rest with the government. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

07-12-2006, 11:22 AM	#94
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	But do you agree with the ones I menioned being mandatory? __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

07-12-2006, 11:29 AM	#95
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Well none of those inconvenience anybody at all by being enforced, so I guess I dont have a problem with them. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

07-12-2006, 09:18 PM	#99
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	There are plenty of other laws and restrictions we put on what restaurant owners can do in their establishments. Remember when they wouldn't allow blacks in? What if an owner decides that his business will increase if he doesn't serve mexicans? We decide for him who he serves. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

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