Does Anyone feel like Bailing

Originally Posted by classicman

Incorrect - BIASED PARTISAN SPIN - Strike 1
I posted information available from the stimuluswatch.com site.
I found it interesting what some of the money was spent on.
You got all bent out of shape about it.

No...you got all bent out of shape when I provided factual information to supplement your "gotcha" posts....and played the Merc "anything the Obama govt says is lies or biased" card.

Incorrect again - Strike two
I posted that Obama is playing both sides of the fence. You again got all defensive...

The record speaks for itself...

Read back through the discussion of banking regulations earlier on this thread and the part where you got all bent out of shape and accused me of attacking a "respected member of the community" and then starting whining when I asked you for your solution.

You attack people and then come back with a "who me...i was just joking" when you're called out on it.

When you attempt to play "gotcha"...dont be such a fucking baby when I play back.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

....and played the Merc "anything the Obama govt says is lies or biased"

That is because it is pretty much a true statement out of this groups of scumbags.

And when you attempt to play "gotcha"...dont be such a fucking baby when I play back.

Watch out now Classic, he said fuck.:p

I'll make it simple for you.

Show me how this DoAg report is biased or not factual...post the evidence

Or do you have any evidence that it was a payoff to an Obama supporter as you suggested.....then post that evidence.

Or the self-reporting by the company as required by law. You have evidence that the job figures are wrong...post the evidence.

To suggest they are biased or Obama administration lies is just bullshit.

Personally, I'm getting REALLY tired of reading from you and Merc that anything from the Obama administration is a lie or biased.

Back it up with facts or I will keep calling you out on it.....and you can cry me a river.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

I'll make it simple for you.

Show me how this DoAg report is biased or not factual...biased or not factual

Show us all where the stimulus.org info is biased or not factual... biased or not factual

Or do you have any evidence that it was a payoff to an Obama supporter......then post that evidence.

Where'd that one come from?

Or the www.recovery.gov You have evidence that the job figures are wrong...post the evidence.

I already reported what I read from an independent link. Are you hard of reading or what?

To suggest they are biased or Obama administration lies is just bullshit. I cry me a river.

Personally, I'm getting REALLY tired of reading from you and Merc that anything from the Obama administration is a lie or biased.

There ya go again. Take up your issues with Merc on his posts.

Back it up or shut the fuck up or I will keep calling you out on it.....and you can cry me a river.

Ohhhh weeee, I'm skeered now. Whatcha gonna do post an animated punch.gif?

You are losing your composure. We disagree - we have posted conflicting information. Yours comes from your administration/coworkers/lobbyist friends . . . so you CHOOSE to believe it. I got mine from an independent source, so I CHOOSE to believe that. Are you hard of reading? Shall I post in all caps for you.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

I'll make it simple for you.

Show me how this DoAg report is biased or not factual...post the evidence

Or do you have any evidence that it was a payoff to an Obama supporter as you suggested.....then post that evidence.

Or the self-reporting by the company as required by law. You have evidence that the job figures are wrong...post the evidence.

To suggest they are biased or Obama administration lies is just bullshit.

Personally, I'm getting REALLY tired of reading from you and Merc that anything from the Obama administration is a lie or biased.

Back it up with facts or I will keep calling you out on it.....and you can cry me a river.

First stimulus package:

"Millions of shovel ready jobs." = Lie.

The list is really pretty solid.

Originally Posted by classicman

Show us all where the stimulus.org info is biased or not factual... biased or not factual

I never disputed the factual nature of the Stimulus Watch site...just the fact that it does not tell the full story.

Why are you so afraid of more facts or a more complete picture to supplement (not contradict) that site or immediately question the validity of the supplemental information I provided?

Your words:

Originally Posted by classicman

I'll still take the word of the independent source over the biased one.

Looking over stimuluswatch.com, there seems to be many many such programs. Yes there are some related to infrastructure, but there are so many that seem to have nothing to do with building anything. I wonder how many of these organizations/companies/corporations that got these grants are "friends" of political people. I would guess a whole bunch of them.

Where is the evidence of "bias" in that DoAG report or the filing from the company (not govt figures on jobs, but from the company that is required to report those figures)?

Where is the evidence of "friends" of political people.

It is typical Merc (and UG) bullshit and you've evidently joined the club. You're great at posting links that may be factual but only tell half the story.

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BTW, you also made an ignorant, uninformed comment on the cops funding in Miami based on your factual source:

Originally Posted by classicman

Contract: The City of Miami to hire 50 police officers. $11,086,850 Jobs created so far...Zero
Um - thats like over $200,000 per officer. WTH?

You jumped right on the "facts" (less than complete) from the site and assumed the worst because it fit your agenda.

Thats what you do. Half truths or a less than complete set of facts are evidently enough for you to make an "informed" decision.

More of those negative waves, dude.

I corrected you on that one as well....

And I didnt call anyone an asshole or make comments about anyone's wife...that was you, dude.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

Where is the evidence of "friends" of political people.

I never said there was - I simply asaid I wondered about who got these grants and opened the possibility of it to discussion. You took offense and screamed bloody murder. You act as though it never happens. I call Bullshit on that. It happens every day and you probably make your living from it. You've already acmitted to being associated with a lobbyist firm.

You jumped right on the "facts" (less than complete) from the site and assumed the worst because it fit your agenda.

See thats your problem - you have an agenda and incorrectly assume everyone else does as well.

And I didnt call anyone an asshole or make comments about anyone's wife...that was you, dude.

Wrong again - that was tw - it happened right here and is well documented.

[tw]

Originally Posted by classicman

I never said there was - I simply asaid I wondered about who got these grants and opened the possibility of it to discussion. You took offense and screamed bloody murder.

Why do you again post accusations and never any facts. When do you post something factual that must stand scrutiny? You never do. You are very good as subliminal attacks and subjective claims. When you cannot prove something, then you challenge others to provide facts.

Put up some facts for your claims. You are not the victim here. You are the problem. Post some facts rather than taking cheap shots at reality. Your challenges used to mask a shortage of facts is tiring. And what Limbaugh encourages neocons to do.

Or was it all Clintons fault - as you are routinely posting in so many threads. That is your political agenda showing. You could at least put your skirt back on and cover it up.

Originally Posted by classicman

I'll still take the word of the independent source over the biased one.

Where is the evidence of "bias" in that DoAG report or the filing from the company (not govt figures on jobs, but from the company that is required to report those figures)?

You certainly should be able to answer that if the source is biased.

Why is telling the more complete story mean having an agenda as opposed to telling a less complete story or providing less documented information?

Your interpretation:

Contract: Small Turkey Deli Breasts $5,379,000 Willmar MN Jobs created...unreported. Great accounting (no agenda?) ....I wish I could find out how this works, $5 million plus ...for turkey breasts? (no agenda?) nice going. (no agenda?)

No agenda....bullshit.

My interpretation:

Project Report:$5 million for 2.9 million lbs for domestic food assistance programs....less than $2/lb....seems like a reasonable price...Jobs created - 285.

Now who has an agenda(based on less than a full picture of the project) and who provided more factual information, unless you have evidence to the contrary?

You have made your disdain for the stimulus program clear in numerous negative posts, which is your right; just man up to it.

This was just the latest example.

Everyone has an agenda with the exception of you and Merc.....same old story.

[classicman]

I posted facts tommy - try reading for a change, instead of writing.

Redux, still itching eh? I posted all I have to say on this - You have your opinion and I have mine. Do you not realize that no matter how many times you repeat the same thing that will not change?

Originally Posted by classicman

I posted facts tommy - try reading for a change, instead of writing.

Redux, still itching eh? I posted all I have to say on this - You have your opinion and I have mine. Do you not realize that no matter how many times you repeat the same thing that will not change?

Right..you dont have an agenda.....you just assume that the data from the DoAg and the company in question is biased....but of course, you cant provide any documentation.

And everyone else has an agenda.

You are right..I have an agenda...exposing your bullshit for what it is!

[Madman]

I try not to get into political conversations. No point. After all - it's those damn liberals fault anyway.

They did create sin and everything else that's bad.

[classicman]

uh, that would you be repeating yourself again. Me and my bullshit??? Yeh right! Perhaps you should contact the independent source, stimuluswatch.org, I quoted and take it up with them. Perhaps you can talk down to them and they'll listen.
By the way - Posting, re-posting and re-re-posting the same thing doesn't work - Aside from tw, most here read it the first time.

Originally Posted by classicman

uh, that would you be repeating yourself again. Me and my bullshit??? Yeh right! Perhaps you should contact the independent source, stimuluswatch.org, I quoted and take it up with them. Perhaps you can talk down to them and they'll listen.
By the way - Posting, re-posting and re-re-posting the same thing doesn't work - Aside from tw, most here read it the first time.

Hey...no problem.

You post less than complete information...bitch and whine when it is supplemented and your assumptions exposed as false...call the supplemental information biased..but cant document that bias.

You've been exposed for all to see.

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you certainly didnt complain about my perspective or sources when you PM me wanting suggestions to help with someone's school paper. got an A on that paper if I recall.

fucking hypocrite.

[classicman]

Gee now my feelings are hurt. I've been called a "fucking hypocrite" on the internet by a self admitted lobbyist.