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Old 11-16-2009, 05:15 PM   #1
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Is there any evidence to suggest that oversight will significantly reduce accidents?
How would one expect to collect that evidence, without first doing some oversight?
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:41 PM   #2
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I am guessing, but in most transportation accidents the Fed Transportation and Safety Administration usually investigate. I would think they would have a pretty good trail. Why not strenghten the existing systems rather than have the Federal Government get involved at much greater cost. To what end?
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:20 PM   #3
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Well for one thing we can create more boards and committees. Oh and we can appoint more Czars. Job creation baby.
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:26 PM   #4
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Yea, make government bigger! and then when it gets really big we can lay them off. What a plan.
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:57 PM   #5
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Dear God, vote these people out of office. Not only are they betraying the public trust, they can't even lie well enough to escape detection for more than about twenty minutes. Malicious and incompetent.

While there are flashes of occasional shrewdness or potential shrewdness on the foreign-policy front, that's a mighty few bright spots in a record of just-ain't-got-it that will exceed the Clintons. Whom I also did not vote for. I am consistently wise, and Redux continues to have nothing real to believe in, or base his values upon.
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:41 PM   #6
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I agree with all of that, UG, only you're 14 months late in posting it. :p
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:20 PM   #7
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Obama won no concessions from China on points at issue

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BEIJING — President Barack Obama on Wednesday wraps up a three-day visit to China that's left him keenly aware of the limits of his administration's leverage over this economic powerhouse on issues from currency exchange rates to human rights.

Obama has little leverage over China , in part because the U.S. depends on the Chinese to finance the U.S. government's growing debt, and because of the perception in China , which for years was an economic nonentity, that the U.S. is troubled and China is ascendant.

Administration officials said that the China stop, part of a four-nation Asia tour that will conclude Thursday in South Korea , was a success because it laid the groundwork for a more focused U.S.- China alliance to tackle everything from global warming to nuclear weapons containment.

China gave no evident ground on the points at issue, however.
n two areas in which the United States wants to shift China's positions — valuation of the Chinese currency and the Chinese government's censorship practices and human rights abuses — no advances were announced, however.

The U.S. is the world's largest economy; China's the world's most populous nation, with the third largest gross domestic product. China has helped keep the American economy afloat through the recession. Its huge trade surplus with the United States — and the $800 billion worth of American government debt that it holds — is economically unsustainable and leaves the U.S. dependent on Beijing's financial favor, however.

Obama has called for China to stop undervaluing its currency and adopt a more market-based standard as one way to begin reducing the trade imbalance.


Other aspects of Obama's visit also were sobering. Even as he arrived Sunday night, human rights organizations reported that the Chinese government was rounding up and arresting dissidents to ensure that they couldn't reach out to the U.S.

The following day, Hu allowed Obama's town-hall meeting, the first such event for a Western leader in China , to air on local television in Shanghai — but not nationally.

Hu didn't agree to any news conferences at which reporters could ask questions.

There were no chants of "O-ba-ma!" at the town hall meeting. Instead, 400 students selected by authorities at their universities awaited his arrival in silence, sitting rigidly and displaying little emotion.
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Good luck with that plan. You've got as good a chance of that happening as asking the opposing team not to play their star players. Why would China do that when it is clearly NOT in their best interest?
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:12 PM   #8
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Good luck with that plan. You've got as good a chance of that happening as asking the opposing team not to play their star players. Why would China do that when it is clearly NOT in their best interest?
Wasn't that just about what Bush did? Did you expect different results? Did he get different results?
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:37 AM   #9
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Wasn't that just about what Bush did? Did you expect different results? Did he get different results?
You tell me. Did he act as though China was our new buddy and kiss their ass? I'm not sure I remember that part.
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Old 11-19-2009, 05:54 PM   #10
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You tell me. Did he act as though China was our new buddy and kiss their ass? I'm not sure I remember that part.
Yes. And got no results re dollar vs yuan valuation.
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Old 11-18-2009, 07:46 PM   #11
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(CNN) -- The government Web site Recovery.gov is fixing errors that appeared to show hundreds of millions of stimulus dollars were spent in nonexistent congressional districts, the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board said Wednesday.

The errors {lies}, first reported by ABC News, were seen on Recovery.gov summary pages breaking down how many stimulus dollars were received in each state's congressional districts.

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Old 11-18-2009, 09:26 PM   #12
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First they kill some poor sod now they hit someone else....

http://www.abqjournal.com/abqnews/ab...-in-wreck.html

Watch out for Biden's Motorcade. It is deadly.

Or you could go hunting with Cheney, your choice.

WTF is up with these incompetent VP's?
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Old 11-19-2009, 05:41 AM   #13
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I didn't realize Joe was driving... oh wait he wasn't. Maybe someone else was shooting for Cheney as well... that is how he handled Vietnam.
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:52 AM   #14
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If he cared TW might insert some witty new statements about problems being traceable to the top and how the 70HP engine... oh nevermind.
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Old 11-19-2009, 08:46 PM   #15
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Bzzzzzz. Wrong.
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