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Old 11-11-2009, 01:57 PM   #1
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Right.

Change is self-motivated...it just happens without any stimulation or leadership.
You want cheese with that?
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:59 PM   #2
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Now I understand how we got into the Iraq War.

It just sorta happened on its own.
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Old 11-11-2009, 02:00 PM   #3
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Now I understand how we got into the Iraq War.

It just sorta happened on its own.
Wow! Really? Tell me about that. I haven't heard about it.
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:56 PM   #4
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Wow! Really? Tell me about that. I haven't heard about it.
The way I figure it was that Buddy, the Bush WH dog found a scrap of paper on the floor of the Oval Office one night....snuck out and raced down Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol and dropped it into the bill hopper when no one was looking (helpful illustration):

Once in the hopper, the innocuous scrap of paper transformed itself into a resolution to invade Iraq....and hopped out of the hopper, snuck onto the private underground train system for members of Congress and made its way to the appropriate Committee rooms.

Whereupon, it marked itself up, made its way to the floor of the House and voted electronically for itself....then scurried across the rotunda and made its way to the floor of the Senate and passed itself by unanimous consent of one.

Bush and the Republican leaders of Congress had nothing to do with it.
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Old 11-11-2009, 03:35 PM   #5
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Simply put . . .

It's Bush's fault
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Old 11-11-2009, 06:00 PM   #6
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Old 11-11-2009, 06:09 PM   #7
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Oooops.

The Bush dog was Barney, not Buddy.



The little rascal still should have been impeached for that escapade..despite that innocent "who me?" look!
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Old 11-11-2009, 10:01 PM   #8
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The White House job lie string continues to be pulled...

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While Massachusetts recipients of federal stimulus money collectively report 12,374 jobs saved or created, a Globe review shows that number is wildly exaggerated. Organizations that received stimulus money miscounted jobs, filed erroneous figures, or claimed jobs for work that has not yet started.

The Globe’s finding is based on the federal government’s just-released accounts of stimulus spending at the end of October. It lists the nearly $4 billion in stimulus awards made to an array of Massachusetts government agencies, universities, hospitals, private businesses, and nonprofit organizations, and notes how many jobs each created or saved.

But in interviews with recipients, the Globe found that several openly acknowledged creating far fewer jobs than they have been credited for.

One of the largest reported jobs figures comes from Bridgewater State College, which is listed as using $77,181 in stimulus money for 160 full-time work-study jobs for students. But Bridgewater State spokesman Bryan Baldwin said the college made a mistake and the actual number of new jobs was “almost nothing.’’ Bridgewater has submitted a correction, but it is not yet reflected in the report.

In other cases, federal money that recipients already receive annually - subsidies for affordable housing, for example - was reclassified this year as stimulus spending, and the existing jobs already supported by those programs were credited to stimulus spending. Some of these recipients said they did not even know the money they were getting was classified as stimulus funds until September, when federal officials told them they had to file reports.

“There were no jobs created. It was just shuffling around of the funds,’’ said Susan Kelly, director of property management for Boston Land Co., which reported retaining 26 jobs with $2.7 million in rental subsidies for its affordable housing developments in Waltham. “It’s hard to figure out if you did the paperwork right. We never asked for this.’’

The federal stimulus report for Massachusetts has so many errors, missing data, or estimates instead of actual job counts that it may be impossible to accurately tally how many people have been employed by the massive infusion of federal money. Massachusetts is expected to receive an estimated $1 billion more in stimulus contracts, grants, and loans.
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Old 11-11-2009, 10:20 PM   #9
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The article also says they "saved" many more jobs though.
I dunno about this saved vs. created business.
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Old 11-11-2009, 10:27 PM   #10
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I doubt anyone could dispute the "saved" angle, although it would be hard pressed to measure it compared to the oft measured monthly job "loss" reports which are measured. And if you are one of the millions who have lost jobs this year I am not sure it would carry much weight if you were still unemployed. I am more surprised they would try to get away with such a ruse after all the BS from the last Admin. As if no one would be looking.
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Old 11-13-2009, 12:27 AM   #11
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Just one more indication that the Democratic Party thinks we're only as smart as they are. Or perhaps are less so.

No thank you, ladies and gentlemen of the majority party.
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Old 11-13-2009, 09:36 AM   #12
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Unemployment remains above 10%, what a legacy.
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Legacy's are not judged after nine months....or Bush's legacy would have been as a post-9//11 "healer and uniter" who brought the country together at a time of national crisis.

The legacy didnt quite turn out that way.
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Old 11-13-2009, 10:21 AM   #14
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Legacy's are not judged after nine months....or Bush's legacy would have been as a post-9//11 "healer and uniter" who brought the country together at a time of national crisis.

The legacy didnt quite turn out that way.
Damm right about that!
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:09 PM   #15
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More big brother government.

Federal oversight of subways proposed

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...402459_pf.html

At what cost to the public? Is there any evidence to suggest that oversight will significantly reduce accidents?
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