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Old 08-27-2005, 09:56 AM   #1
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All the cars are 200 HP nowadays, even the efficient ones. Even the Honda Accord Hybrid is capable of 255 HP.
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Old 08-27-2005, 01:15 PM   #2
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All the cars are 200 HP nowadays, even the efficient ones. Even the Honda Accord Hybrid is capable of 255 HP.
2.3 liter times 70 Hp per liter is ..... 160. What was the 350 V-8 in the 1970s? 140 to 160 Hp. That was more than sufficient then. What has changed? The Honda Accord Hybrid is a high performance V-6 - way more than any driver needs. Where all cars are over 200 Hp, well, ego is excessive. IOW price of gas is no where near high enough to force the ego to conceded to logic.

Want to see how low gasoline prices are? Look at the so many who buy 4.0 and 6.5 liter vehicles ... still. Gasoline prices have not become high enough to restore sanity. But then that is why when gasoline jumped to about $1.70 per gallon in 1979, only then did the automakers decide they had to innovate. $1.70 in 1979 is about $4.50 in 2005 dollars.
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Old 08-27-2005, 10:50 PM   #3
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Those dollars saved will go toward flowers for your funeral when you can't get out of harms way with your 150 hp.
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Old 08-28-2005, 02:07 AM   #4
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Those dollars saved will go toward flowers for your funeral when you can't get out of harms way with your 150 hp.
So let me understand what has just been posted. We are all such poor drivers that we now need 200+ HP to do what 70 Hp once did just fine. Or is it that we all need contacts to fix a mental problem called myopia?

No. The problem is that when the penis gets that big, then we need more horsepower to move it. Actually we need more horsepower because our egos are now so big. Meanwhile, it will take a responsible gas crisis to bring Americans back to reality. Good thing we have crisis to periodically and properly age us.

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Old 08-29-2005, 07:29 PM   #5
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So let me understand what has just been posted. We are all such poor drivers that we now need 200+ HP to do what 70 Hp once did just fine. Or is it that we all need contacts to fix a mental problem called myopia?

No. The problem is that when the penis gets that big, then we need more horsepower to move it. Actually we need more horsepower because our egos are now so big. Meanwhile, it will take a responsible gas crisis to bring Americans back to reality. Good thing we have crisis to periodically and properly age us.
Insults will get you nowhere...here or when that cement truck is about to turn you into history.
70 hp? I can't remember the last time I drove something with 70 hp...and 4 wheels.
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:45 PM   #6
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That was average around 1980 when I was coming up. My first car was the 1985 VW GTI which was considered "sporty" at 102 hp. That car did 0-60 in 8 seconds, which is close to what my lj-leased 255 hp 2005 Frontier manages... 8.5 seconds. No I don't take off like that... often.
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Old 08-29-2005, 08:24 PM   #7
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That was average around 1980 when I was coming up.
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Average horsepower of cars and light trucks decreased from 137 horsepower in 1975 to a low of 102 in the 1981/82 period, then rose 63 percent by 1996. (Light trucks includes minivans, sport utility vehicles and small pickup trucks.)
70 HP, hasn't been average for a very, very long time.
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:26 PM   #8
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you do, of course, realize that this chart posting will cause a series of charts to be posted over the next month, each telling why you are wrong, foolish, republican, and probably inbred?
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Old 08-30-2005, 10:13 AM   #9
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you do, of course, realize that this chart posting will cause a series of charts to be posted over the next month, each telling why you are wrong, foolish, republican, and probably inbred?
*singing* That's Entertainment */singing*
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Old 08-30-2005, 10:54 AM   #10
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I just spent $52.00 on a fillup last night for the first time in my life. Furthermore, I spent $5.00 on gas for my lawnmower, and it didn't fill a 2-gallon gas can.

Someone tell me again how this isn't going to decimate our economy?
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Old 08-30-2005, 08:32 AM   #11
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Gas prices are rough but as of yet it hasn't changed my driving habits much. It's ironic that gas prices rose so sharply as soon my 1998 Tahoe went up in flames and I replaced it with a 1999 Suburban. So I went from a 30 gallon tank to a 40 gallon tank and 16 MPG to 13 MPG. I was all excited about the Suburban because it's the perfect tailgate vehicle (other than a monster RV which I can't afford) but the gas prices have put quite a damper on that.

The fortunate thing is that I don't have an office to drive to. If I'm not traveling to a customer's site (typically plane or train) I work from home. Occasionally I have to drive to my office in VA but that's only about once or twice a month. This will help me keep gas spending low.
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Old 08-30-2005, 06:55 PM   #12
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Head's up -- we're going short here in Tampa. 87 octane is gone thanks to Katrina.
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Old 08-31-2005, 01:47 AM   #13
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Head's up -- we're going short here in Tampa. 87 octane is gone thanks to Katrina.
same thing happened in phoenix two days ago. i had to visit 4 gas stations to find 89 (all were out of 87) and i took the last of the 89 from the 4th station.
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Old 08-31-2005, 09:08 AM   #14
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same thing happened in phoenix two days ago. i had to visit 4 gas stations to find 89 (all were out of 87) and i took the last of the 89 from the 4th station.
In Tampa, I suspect it was our glorious Gov's use of the magic word "rationing" on national television, yesterday, that prompted a small panic and hurried fill-ups. The runouts we're seeing aren't any different than when a hurricane threatens us and everyone buys all at once.

What happened in Phoenix to cause a shortage? And did you end up wasting more money in gasoline driving to find the cheap stuff than if you would have just filled with 89 at the first station?
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Old 08-31-2005, 11:10 AM   #15
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same thing happened in phoenix two days ago. i had to visit 4 gas stations to find 89 (all were out of 87) and i took the last of the 89 from the 4th station.
Really? I haven't been aware of any gas shortages here on my side of town. Cripes! I hope we don't have a replay of what happened a while back when the pipeline broke just outside of Tucson. People panicked, everyone filled their tanks running stations dry. Then, people paniked even more. You remember Lookout, people were actually tracking down and following fuel trucks as they drove to the gas stations for delivery. Or, what was funny, was they would sometimes follow them back to the fuel depots thinking they were making a delivery.
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