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Old 01-09-2011, 03:26 PM   #1
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Even if he hadn't shot all those people, even if it never happened, posting on-line rifle cross-hairs over "target" election sites and political opponants like Palin did was stupid, provocative and dangerous.
She and her spokesperson can claim it was never meant to represent rifle crosshairs but only a complete moron could think they were anything else.
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Old 01-09-2011, 07:36 PM   #2
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... posting on-line rifle cross-hairs over "target" election sites and political opponants like Palin did was stupid, provocative and dangerous.
Nonsense. It was intentional. It is how nutjobs are inspired. It was not stupid. It was intentional. Extremists love promoting that kind of hate. And, like Likud, then deny that was their intent.

Mafia godfathers wish they could get people killed that easily. But then the mafia only does it for money. Extremists do it for hate.
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Old 01-09-2011, 02:26 PM   #3
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I have seen no example of anyone playing with guns in any of those pictures you posted.
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Old 01-09-2011, 02:29 PM   #4
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D'oh...semantics schemantics.
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Old 01-09-2011, 02:44 PM   #5
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Looks like nothing more than people exercising their First Amendment rights and saying what they believe. No harm in that.
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Old 01-09-2011, 02:47 PM   #6
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So you are Ok with using the threat of violence as a First Amendment Right.
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Old 01-09-2011, 02:51 PM   #7
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So you are Ok with using the threat of violence as a form of civil discourse. Duly noted.
I think those who were completely against where this government used the historical precedent of overthrowing a government by the use of force if that what it took to get the changes they wanted. Hell now we we have wacko's like Olberman saying it happened because of the Tea Party and Bush, now there is part of the problem.

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Old 01-09-2011, 02:52 PM   #8
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So you are Ok with using the threat of violence as a First Amendment Right.
Why did you alter your post?
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Old 01-09-2011, 02:57 PM   #9
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Why did you alter your post?
Because I type as I am thinking. Why doesn't your name show up in the member list at the bottom of the Cellar front page?
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Old 01-09-2011, 02:57 PM   #10
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So you are Ok with using the threat of violence as a First Amendment Right.
Since you changed it I will answer this one too. Actually I believe that is a crime in most states if you can prove that the fear of violence is real.
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Old 01-09-2011, 03:06 PM   #11
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Since you changed it I will answer this one too. Actually I believe that is a crime in most states if you can prove that the fear of violence is real.
Ya know...then in that case, if someones says they have a gun and will use it, they need to be taken seriously...the fear of violence is there.
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Old 01-09-2011, 03:07 PM   #12
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Ya know...that's a really fine line and total bullshit. If someones says they have a gun and will use it, they need to be taken seriously...the fear of violence is there.
Yea, that is why you should call the police if someone says that to you so you can have the threat documented and file charges agains the person who is threatening you. If you don't, it is on you.

I really don't consider it a "fine line and total bullshit".
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Old 01-09-2011, 07:31 PM   #13
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Actually I believe that is a crime in most states if you can prove that the fear of violence is real.
Post a threat here to kill the president and see how much proof the Secret Service really needs. Your 1st Amendment rights are worth trampled beans if you also do not use it responsibly.

Meanwhile, history says the nutjobs come from everywhere once extremists start promoting hate. But then Likud really did not mean to have Rabin assassinated. Likud were just calling for it repeatedly and it accidentally happened. That is your logic. And I guess you are sticking to it.
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Old 01-09-2011, 02:47 PM   #14
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The kid who did the shooting was obviously having "issues",

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/jared-...ry?id=12572164
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Old 01-09-2011, 02:55 PM   #15
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You caught me mid-change in my post, merc. I'm not entirely understanding your reply. Terrorists use force to try to get changes they want.
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