Mosque at 51 Park Place, NY, NY

[tw]

Originally Posted by abbyd

I think it'll be a symbol of tolerance, though I count myself as one who is offended by it at the same time.

So what would you say had bin Laden been a computer scientist? Would you ban all computer stores from lower Manhattan?

11 September was not about Islam. It was 100% about bin Laden and his organization - Al Qaeda. Nothing more. You should only be offended by one thing. The American president all but protected bin Laden. Even disbanned Alec Station. Let bin Laden run free. Killed 4000 good American soldiers conducting war on a mythical enemy - while letting bin Laden run free.

If anything should offend you, it is George Jr's picture anywhere on the island of Manhattan.

Every light was flashing red. He even had a memo on his desk warning of the threat. And he did nothing – both before and after 11 September. That it is THE most offensive. He even let bin Laden run free. Then his political extremist propaganda machine invents and blames Islamofascism. That is also far more offensive.

[classicman]

Bin Laden reportedly died in the early 2000's. Apparently from some heart or kidney issue.

[Undertoad]

Now that they have Park Place, if they get Boardwalk we'll really be screwed.

[Pete Zicato]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Now that they have Park Place, if they get Boardwalk we'll really be screwed.

[Sundae]

UT, you know when the Monopoly Board Bombers start, you're gonna be hauled in for questioning, right?

Except isn't the US version based in Atlantic City or something?
Ours is based in London, and while it misses obvious targets (excuse the language) like Downing Street, it's would certainly close down the rest of London. Kings Cross is one of the stations for example. Although oddly - no-one seems to agree where the Angel Islington actually is. Perhaps a joke by the makers - I certainly had a username "Islington" for a while, because obviously I am an angel. Until people from North London started to make assumptions. Never trust a North Londoner. Sez my Dad.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Ours is based in London, and while it misses obvious targets (excuse the language) like Downing Street, it's would certainly close down the rest of London. Kings Cross is one of the stations for example. Although oddly - no-one seems to agree where the Angel Islington actually is. Perhaps a joke by the makers - I certainly had a username "Islington" for a while, because obviously I am an angel. Until people from North London started to make assumptions. Never trust a North Londoner. Sez my Dad.

Ever read or see "Neverwhere"? A lot of old tube stations make appearances.

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Ever read or see "Neverwhere"? A lot of old tube stations make appearances.

But of course. I think I've bought everything ever published by Neil Gaiman, many more than once (as presents). I've been keeping him in the gothic style to which he has become accustomed for years now.

But, yes, I had completely forgotten about his Angel Islington.
And d'ya know what? I never knew it started as a TV show. When it was released on DVD a while back I avoided it out of principle, assuming it could never be as good as the book! Fool. Next, someone will be telling me the Iain Banks' The Crow Road was worth watching...

Anyway, back to Muslims and mosques an all that.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Anyway, back to Muslims and mosques an all that.

I'd just as soon talk about Neverwhere as get into another hate fest. Good book. Lil' Pete's English teacher assigned M is for Magic to her class two years back.

[Pete Zicato]

Originally Posted by Griff

I'd just as soon talk about Neverwhere as get into another hate fest. Good book. Lil' Pete's English teacher assigned M is for Magic to her class two years back.

I can also recommend Gaiman's "The Graveyard Book". Mrs. Z got it for her tween students, but I got to read it before it went off to school. I liked the old-fashioned folk-tale feel to the story. The characters were memorable and the plot was well done.

[Undertoad]

I had not thought of the international implications!

Yes, the original is based on street names in A.C.

[TheMercenary]

SO the Imam of this place is totally anti-american and blame the US for 9/11. Nice....


And the people of NYC should support him because?

[TheMercenary]

This guy frigging nails it...

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/pa...surprised.html

[tw]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

This guy frigging nails it...
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/pa...surprised.html

Wow. Saudis. UN. IslamoNazis. German Nazis. The Koran. All have conspired in an axis of evil to destroy America. Pat Condell told us - it must be true.

Pat Condell forgot to dress in his white 'glory suit', ignite a cross, and salute the Imperial Wizard before recording a tirade endorsed by TheMercenary. Wow. One could not ask for a more racist hate speech. The only word he forgot to use to describe Muslims was nigger.

As an extremist, he even 'proved' the UN has conspired with Islam to destroy America.

Why are Islam and 11 Sept related? The enemy is bin Laden and Al Qaeda. A terrorist organization based in hate. Why are so many upset? Because wackos have successfully got so many blaming Islam for 11 Sept. Same logic from George Jr also blamed Saddam so that George Jr could waste the lives of 4000 American soldiers.

At what point does everyone associate 11 September with real enemies? bin Laden. Wackos have so many blaming Islam for 11 September. Wackos, who all but protected bin Laden and who gain power by promoting hate, need us to hate Muslims. And so many oblige.

Wackos have again spun us into lying to ourselves. 11 Sept is about bin Laden; not about Islam. And bin Laden is not building a mosque.

Better is to have everyone ask the only relevant question when 11 September is mentioned. When do we get bin Laden? Wackos hope you never ask that question. Wackos gain power through hate; by blaming Muslims. By endorsing Pat Condell's bigotry.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Yeah, 9-11 was bin Laden's doing, but there were plenty of radical Muslims in the middle east and Indonesia that didn't like us, because of our support for Israel. This gave bin Laden a large pool to recruit from, and funding too.
Then invading Iraq gave them the chance to turn to moderate Muslims and say, see, see, I told you so, which really fucked things up.

Read the story of Abd el-Kader, whom Elkader, Iowa, was named after... the only Arab to be so honored.

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[classicman]

Originally Posted by tw

The enemy is bin Laden

At what point does everyone associate 11 September with real enemies? bin Laden. Wackos, who all but protected bin Laden
11 Sept is about bin Laden;
And bin Laden is not building a mosque.

When do we get bin Laden?

Again - Bin Laden reportedly died in the early 2000's. Apparently from some heart or kidney issue.