What does being a man mean to you? - Page 6

SteveDallas · 12-07-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloud

You can't tell me that men don't think about "manly" stuff, regardless of whether it's pc to say males and females should have the same virtues. (And by stuff, I do not mean pron!) Expected male behavior has changed so much in the last 50 years, thanks in part to a great deal of hard work by women, that I'm thinking it must be a very hard idea to pin down.

What do modern men think is proper male behavior?

I think nothing about it. I behave the way it seems ... good, proper, appropriate... whatever word you might attach to behave. I go to work. I warn my boss that something's coming down the pike we need to deal with. I make a cup of coffee. I stop to buy gas. I cook dinner. I install molding. I watch House. I drink Cheerwine. I eat pizza. I read a book. etc. etc. etc.

I do all these things and others because I want to, or because I feel they're necessary for me for some reason--whether for my own well-being or due to some obligation I have to other people. I don't do any of them because "I'm a man" or "Men are supposed to do X."

Clodfobble · 12-07-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Currently a very interesting trend is happening within computing. The more highly technological the field, the more likely it will be coded male, at least at the higher levels. We are over a quarter of a century in to the true 'computer age' and our cultural markers for people who work within the computer industries, both hardware and software are overwhelmingly male. There have always been women working in the field, but it's only relatively recently that women have started to go into it in numbers that could change the landscape. It's quite interesting to watch that change.

There is a micro trend within that which is fascinating to me, here in the southern US. Among lower-economic Hispanics, computers are very much not masculine, they are feminine. This is because they have no exposure to the geeky male model, the only place computers exist for them is in their mothers' administrative jobs--i.e., bookkeeping, human resources, secretaries. Ask a group of Hispanic boys if they want to learn about computers, and they will laugh it off as equivalent to playing with Barbie dolls.

DanaC · 12-07-2009, 01:16 PM

Now that really is fascinating. I love gender questions. They're so fundamental to how we see ourselves and yet so knotty as to be almost unfathomable.

ZenGum · 12-07-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

Wait a second, one of the 7 values that you are supposed to follow in the Army is to follow the 7 Values? Seems like there are only 6 values then, because it's sort of understood that the values are already there to be followed.

Overall, I like them. They are good values.

I noticed that too, but I also agree, nevermind. Pretty good ethos for anyone, and especially for an army.

Cicero · 12-07-2009, 10:08 PM

I better ask the Magic Eight Ball. More definitive responses...

ZenGum · 12-08-2009, 03:32 AM

Hey I am still composing my answer.

monster · 12-08-2009, 07:26 AM

Apparently being a man means taking a damn long time to answer a bloomin' question, and even then effectively saying "it's none of your damn business" :p

dar512 · 12-08-2009, 09:00 AM

Mostly it means being able to pee standing up. I am more defined by the fact that I am a computer geek, a musician, and a Christian, than by my gender.

Cloud · 12-08-2009, 11:12 AM

"Obama says" take a moment to be a dad!

Cicero · 12-08-2009, 02:34 PM

There are clues (what can we make of these?):

http://www.cellar.org/showpost.php?p...4&postcount=20

TheMercenary · 12-08-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud

"Obama says" take a moment to be a dad!

Awesome Idea! If you have kids. What about all those role models who are males that don't have kids? They are the ones that need to think about that the most IMHO. Black Americans need good male role models.

DanaC · 12-08-2009, 05:38 PM

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Black Americans need good male role models.

Like Obama?

TheMercenary · 12-08-2009, 05:48 PM

Absolutely. But he is hardly enough. Obama is a fantastic contribution to half white half black Americans. And I think he does much to supress the overt disdain that many people have for mixed marriges. That can't be anything but good for America in the long run.

toranokaze · 12-08-2009, 09:11 PM

Part of what makes this difficult is defining things that a purely masculine. For example

Homeovestism.

I know what a woman would wear, but what would a man wear.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-09-2009, 01:30 AM

A man should wear a condom and a large caliber handgun.

Oh, and if he's having sex, spurs.

12-07-2009, 10:08 PM	#80
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	I better ask the Magic Eight Ball. More definitive responses... __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

12-08-2009, 03:32 AM	#81
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Hey I am still composing my answer. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

12-08-2009, 07:26 AM	#82
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Apparently being a man means taking a damn long time to answer a bloomin' question, and even then effectively saying "it's none of your damn business" :p __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

12-08-2009, 09:00 AM	#83
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	Mostly it means being able to pee standing up. I am more defined by the fact that I am a computer geek, a musician, and a Christian, than by my gender. __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

12-08-2009, 11:12 AM	#84
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	"Obama says" take a moment to be a dad! __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

12-08-2009, 02:34 PM	#85
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	There are clues (what can we make of these?): http://www.cellar.org/showpost.php?p...4&postcount=20 __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

12-08-2009, 05:48 PM	#88
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Absolutely. But he is hardly enough. Obama is a fantastic contribution to half white half black Americans. And I think he does much to supress the overt disdain that many people have for mixed marriges. That can't be anything but good for America in the long run. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

12-08-2009, 09:11 PM	#89
toranokaze I'm still a jerk Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Little Mexico Posts: 1,817	Part of what makes this difficult is defining things that a purely masculine. For example Homeovestism. I know what a woman would wear, but what would a man wear. __________________ "Without deviation from the norm progress is not possible." - Frank Zappa It is the ignorance of ignorance that lead to the death of knowledge The Virgin Mary does not weep for her son, for he is in paradise. She weeps for the world , for we are in suffering.

12-09-2009, 01:30 AM	#90
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	A man should wear a condom and a large caliber handgun. Oh, and if he's having sex, spurs. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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