Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize - Page 6

Radar · 10-11-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

See what you did there?

You might have a point if awarding a peace prize to a man that reverses the foreign policy of a war monger who started unwarranted, unprovoked, unreasonable, and unconstitutional wars of aggression against nations that posed no harm to our own were a slap in the face of that war monger. It is not.

Rewarding someone for reversing failed policies isn't a slap in the face of the person who made the failed policies. It is merely kudos to the person who got us back on the right track. In this case, it's kudos to the person who is taking steps to make less enemies, to calm existing enemies caused by the previous administration, and to take a more reasonable and intelligent approach to foreign relations. In other words, the Nobel Peace Prize went to a deserving person who has taken real steps toward increasing World Peace.

Flint · 10-11-2009, 10:56 PM

If someone would be kind enough to tell me...

Is there anyone (anyone at all) who thinks this was a good idea?

I mean, they were ripping him a new asshole on the day this was announced--and that was on NPR!

bluecuracao · 10-12-2009, 12:27 AM

So far as I can tell, there's me, Shawnee, and Radar who think it was.

From what I've seen in the news, Obama's diplomatic efforts thus far have already gone a long way to repairing the damage that Bush and his administration had inflicted on the world. He's been spending a lot of time overseas talking with various people, and apparently, it's made a great impression. There's really no reason I can think of not to be happy about it.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-12-2009, 01:17 AM

Haven't you heard?
When Obama went over there, they said, Look Dude, don't be greedy, it's either the Olympics or Nobel Prize, you can't have both.

Obama said, Fuck Chicago, show me the money.

Griff · 10-12-2009, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bluecuracao

From what I've seen in the news, Obama's diplomatic efforts thus far have already gone a long way to repairing the damage that Bush and his administration had inflicted on the world.

True dat.

Flint · 10-12-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bluecuracao

From what I've seen in the news, Obama's diplomatic efforts thus far have already gone a long way to repairing the damage that Bush and his administration had inflicted on the world. He's been spending a lot of time overseas talking with various people, and apparently, it's made a great impression. There's really no reason I can think of not to be happy about it.

I didn't think the prize was designed to reward nations for improving their "image" in the world.

Nice speeches and vaporware are nice, but that's what politicians do. When the same guy that made that "great impression" does something like snub the Dalai Lama to appease the Chinese, are we supposed to think this is champion of human rights? It makes me think, maybe he should have gotten a prize for writing great-sounding speeches...

Radar · 10-12-2009, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

If someone would be kind enough to tell me...

Is there anyone (anyone at all) who thinks this was a good idea?

I mean, they were ripping him a new asshole on the day this was announced--and that was on NPR!

I, and many others, including the Nobel Prize committee think it was a good idea. President Obama deserved the honor for the work he's already done to promote peace throughout the world.

It not only honors the work he's done, it will keep the world's attention on him to ensure that he keeps his promises for further change in America's long failed foreign policy. It will keep President Obama's feet to the fire.

classicman · 10-12-2009, 07:46 AM

All of that is true and some of what Obama ha done have made positive changes in the world view. He was nominated a long time ago and that is the only issue I have. What exactly was he nominated for at that point in time, not the current one.

Radar · 10-12-2009, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

All of that is true and some of what Obama ha done have made positive changes in the world view. He was nominated a long time ago and that is the only issue I have. What exactly was he nominated for at that point in time, not the current one.

He was nominated in February with tons of other people, but the voting wasn't until September.

classicman · 10-12-2009, 07:56 AM

gotcha.

Shawnee123 · 10-12-2009, 08:00 AM

Undertoad · 10-12-2009, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Nobel's will posted by jinx two days ago

(the peace prize should be awarded) to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity among nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.

Shawnee123 · 10-12-2009, 08:23 AM

And so he has. "The most or best work..." Didn't say y'all had to like the work.

10-12-2009, 08:43 AM

While I still think it is a stretch, I can see compelling reasons for the award.

In the past, it has often been based on policies and promises rather than results and a strong case can be made that Obama's campaign promises and early policies promoted a set of values that certainly meet the objectives of the award.

I further agree with Radar that the mocking of the award by many on the right, like the cheering when Chicago lost the Olympic bid, serves no purpose other than to pander to the conservative republican base.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-12-2009, 09:16 AM

You mean the critics are playing......... wait for it.................... base-ball.

10-11-2009, 10:56 PM	#2
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	total tail post If someone would be kind enough to tell me... Is there anyone (anyone at all) who thinks this was a good idea? I mean, they were ripping him a new asshole on the day this was announced--and that was on NPR! __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

10-12-2009, 01:17 AM	#4
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Haven't you heard? When Obama went over there, they said, Look Dude, don't be greedy, it's either the Olympics or Nobel Prize, you can't have both. Obama said, Fuck Chicago, show me the money. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-12-2009, 07:46 AM	#8
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	All of that is true and some of what Obama ha done have made positive changes in the world view. He was nominated a long time ago and that is the only issue I have. What exactly was he nominated for at that point in time, not the current one. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-12-2009, 07:56 AM	#10
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	gotcha. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-12-2009, 08:00 AM	#11
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	__________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

10-12-2009, 12:27 AM	#3
bluecuracao in a mood, not cupcake Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,034	So far as I can tell, there's me, Shawnee, and Radar who think it was. From what I've seen in the news, Obama's diplomatic efforts thus far have already gone a long way to repairing the damage that Bush and his administration had inflicted on the world. He's been spending a lot of time overseas talking with various people, and apparently, it's made a great impression. There's really no reason I can think of not to be happy about it.

10-12-2009, 08:23 AM	#13
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	And so he has. "The most or best work..." Didn't say y'all had to like the work. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

10-12-2009, 08:43 AM	#14
Redux Guest Posts: n/a	While I still think it is a stretch, I can see compelling reasons for the award. In the past, it has often been based on policies and promises rather than results and a strong case can be made that Obama's campaign promises and early policies promoted a set of values that certainly meet the objectives of the award. I further agree with Radar that the mocking of the award by many on the right, like the cheering when Chicago lost the Olympic bid, serves no purpose other than to pander to the conservative republican base. Last edited by Redux; 10-12-2009 at 08:49 AM.

10-12-2009, 09:16 AM	#15
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	You mean the critics are playing......... wait for it.................... base-ball. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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