CyberBully

[DanaC]

lol jim

[DanaC]

The bullying stopped when I kicked the shit out of Queen Hockey Bitch in the middle of an art class. But I'd already figured out people are less likely to want to fight you if they think you are dangerously unpredictable and suicidally reckless.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by DanaC

The bullying stopped when I kicked the shit out of Queen Hockey Bitch in the middle of an art class. But I'd already figured out people are less likely to want to fight you if they think you are dangerously unpredictable and suicidally reckless.

Have you ever seen the show WEEDS? (Scene with Shane at his new school in the lunchroom. )

[TheMercenary]

It doesn't say it is related to bullying but you have to wonder. Is this what we are coming to?

MILFORD, Conn.
A Connecticut middle school principal has laid down the law: You put your hands on someone -- anyone -- in any way, you're going to pay.

A violent incident that put one student in the hospital has officials at the Milford school implementing a "no touching" policy, according to a letter written by the school's principal.

East Shore Middle School parents said the change came after a student was sent to the hospital after being struck in the groin.

Principal Catherine Williams sent out a letter earlier in the week telling parents recent behavior has seriously impacted the safety and learning at the school.

"Observed behaviors of concern recently exhibited include kicking others in the groin area, grabbing and touching of others in personal areas, hugging and horseplay. Physical contact is prohibited to keep all students safe in the learning environment," Williams wrote.

Students and parents are outraged. They said the new policy means no high-fives and hugs, as well as horseplay of any kind. The consequences could be dire, Williams warned in the letter.

"Potential consequences and disciplinary action may include parent conferences, detention, suspension and/or a request for expulsion from school," Williams wrote.

Many think the school's no tolerance policy goes way too far. Others said it's utterly ridiculous.

"Now it's almost as if it's a sanitized school. Where you have to keep your distance from everybody? And that's not what school is about," one father said.

"What if they are out on the playground at recess, or in gym class?" parent Kathy Casey wondered. "You know, gym class is physical."

http://wcbstv.com/local/school.bans.hugs.2.969949.html

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

It doesn't say it is related to bullying but you have to wonder. Is this what we are coming to?



http://wcbstv.com/local/school.bans.hugs.2.969949.html

What kills me is, they KNOW who the bullies are, so why go to all the trouble of new rules that are stupid? Just KICK THE BULLIES OUT! Geezuz. It ain't rocket science.

[zippyt]

Ya Bully Classic !!!!

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by DanaC

There is a culture (in my country and in yours I believe) of machismo when it comes to bullying. One is not supposed to 'lie down and take it', one is supposed to 'fight back.

That's because over hundreds, maybe thousands, of years, we've discovered it's the only thing that always works.

Originally Posted by DanaC

The bullying stopped when I kicked the shit out of Queen Hockey Bitch in the middle of an art class. But I'd already figured out people are less likely to want to fight you if they think you are dangerously unpredictable and suicidally reckless.

As you proved for the billionth time.

[DanaC]

No I didnt prove it. Because that wasnt the first timei had faced down the bullies. It wasnt even the first time I'd faced down that particular bully. Facing down bullies didn't stop it happening. Not for most of my childhood.

What made that particular incident effective was that it was a vicious attack and took place in the middle of a classroom (I also accidentally punched the teacher who tried to intervene). I should not , as a 15 year old, have had to resort to beating someone bloody in order to buy myself a modicum of peace.

Actually, I didn't even beat her up to stop her bullying me. She'd started on my friend. And I had had enough.

The trouble is Classic, I think maybe you have a skewed view of what bullying is actually like. In particular with teenage girls. It's not crowding round you in the playground and stealing your lunch (though that happens) it's not waiting for you at the school gate and kicking the shit out of you (though that also is a part of it). With girls it's more subtle and destructive than that. It's a very social form of bullying with girls.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by DanaC

I should not , as a 15 year old, have had to resort to beating someone bloody in order to buy myself a modicum of peace.

Nonsense, that's the only valid reason, and even if it doesn't stop that bully, others will think twice about piling on. Plus it feels so right.

The trouble is Classic, I think maybe you have a skewed view of what bullying is actually like. In particular with teenage girls. It's not crowding round you in the playground and stealing your lunch (though that happens) it's not waiting for you at the school gate and kicking the shit out of you (though that also is a part of it). With girls it's more subtle and destructive than that. It's a very social form of bullying with girls.

Maybe because girls are more susceptible, they're sensitive to that social standing shit.
Mind over matter... if you don't mind it don't matter.
We social clods can't be socially bullied, gotta get physical with us. That eliminates a lot of the bullies from the git go, and provides the opportunity to stop a lot of the rest right quick.

[Pie]

Social ostracism, jeers, taunts.. it's hard to substantiate beating someone to a pulp when all they've used against you is words.

I would have been expelled and kicked out of the house had I laid a hand on another student.

[Shawnee123]

I've been thinking a lot about this, and remembering how cruel kids could be. There was a girl in elementary school who was picked on quite a bit. For even a few years after HS, she would call me because, as she told my mom, I was one of the few people who was nice to her.

Listening to your stories has opened up a side of the situation I had never really examined before, I guess. I do know that I had cruel moments, but I also remember many instances of being the one who stood up for people. Still, looking back, I wish I had done more.

[DanaC]

Kids are kids. The problem is that adults need to be adults and know when to intervene and how to spot signs that a kid is in trouble. That applies both to bullied and bully. If it goes unchecked and the 'code of silence' prevails whlst young, then it sows seeds potentially for later bullying or aggressive and controlling behaviour in adulthood.

Learning how to interact and survive in groups is an important part of growing up and being human. But the environments in which we expect our young to acquire those social skills is quite an artificial one. 1200 kids gathered in one building, loosely grouped in 30s and 40s. It's very easy to get lost in there. As an adult I can walk away. A co-worker makes my life hell, a boss unreasonably focuses on my faults to the exclusion of others, the culture I find myself in doesn't really fit my personality...I can walk away. I have the ultimate sanction on any bullying behaviour in the workplace because I am not legally obliged to remain.


Wtf does a kid do? When they just don't fit into a 1200 strong community. What do they do, if a teacher hates them and keeps picking on them, what do they do if their classmates don't like them, or if they hate going into the building so much it makes them feel physically sick? What if they just can't get past the overwhelming rage they feel and theyre stuck with people who look down on them and call them stupid; maybe they keep getting into trouble, beating up on younger kids and have no idea why theyre doing it. Unless they have parents able and willing to homeschool them, or with the money and resources to try out different schools, they are stuck. Legally bound to be in a place where they are tormented.

If we as adults are expecting them to spend five years or more in an institution with no right to refuse or to argue for terms, we damn well have a duty to ensure they aren't undergoing huge psychological stress whilst there.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Kids are kids. The problem is that adults need to be adults and know when to intervene and how to spot signs that a kid is in trouble. That applies both to bullied and bully. If it goes unchecked and the 'code of silence' prevails whlst young, then it sows seeds potentially for later bullying or aggressive and controlling behaviour in adulthood.

Learning how to interact and survive in groups is an important part of growing up and being human. But the environments in which we expect our young to acquire those social skills is quite an artificial one. 1200 kids gathered in one building, loosely grouped in 30s and 40s. It's very easy to get lost in there. As an adult I can walk away. A co-worker makes my life hell, a boss unreasonably focuses on my faults to the exclusion of others, the culture I find myself in doesn't really fit my personality...I can walk away. I have the ultimate sanction on any bullying behaviour in the workplace because I am not legally obliged to remain.


Wtf does a kid do? When they just don't fit into a 1200 strong community. What do they do, if a teacher hates them and keeps picking on them, what do they do if their classmates don't like them, or if they hate going into the building so much it makes them feel physically sick? What if they just can't get past the overwhelming rage they feel and theyre stuck with people who look down on them and call them stupid; maybe they keep getting into trouble, beating up on younger kids and have no idea why theyre doing it. Unless they have parents able and willing to homeschool them, or with the money and resources to try out different schools, they are stuck. Legally bound to be in a place where they are tormented.

If we as adults are expecting them to spend five years or more in an institution with no right to refuse or to argue for terms, we damn well have a duty to ensure they aren't undergoing huge psychological stress whilst there.

Well said Dana. Adults ARE part of the problem. They seem oblivious to what goes on around them, and even the good ones (at least in this country) have no power to stop it, because of the dumbass rules we have in place.

And in actuality, it's worked pretty well so far, because if you really look at the issue, that is how the masses are kept under control. Fear and complacency.

[capnhowdy]

I was bullied briefly in the second grade. An asshole who should have been in third (I've always thought that coz he was way bigger than all of us) held out his hand and demanded my milk nickle. So I stabbed him through the hand with a pencil and then again in the back as he ran away.

Funny thing... we never saw that kid again. My mom had to come get me from school and whipped the shit outa me but I was back in school the next day. Never got bullied again. EVAH.

Cyber bullying is way different though in that you can't stab them with pencils online. But you can get your mod to run his IP address and help you locate him and THEN kill him. Or you could just turn your machine off.

[lumberjim]

backstabber!