Bobby Jindal

[Kaliayev]

Two words can ruin the Neocon pretension to superior intellect forever more.

"Douglas Feith".

[xoxoxoBruce]

That sounds like a description of a bunch of bankers/stock brokers.

[Kaliayev]

There can only be one!
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[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by Pie

Sugar, I agree with many things you have said, but I call bullshit on this statement. Yes, pharma is a greedy lot of backstabbing mofos, but I sincerely doubt cancer will be "cured" in our lifetimes, or possibly forever. Cancer is the end-state of nuclear breakdown; as long as DNA is damageable, life will die of something, and that 'something' is cancer. (Assuming we gain the technology/understanding to fix everything else!)

Maybe. But I think it's possible. We never come up with cures anymore, we only come up with treatments, which benfits drug companies. Hell the FDA and pharma cos have been trying to shut down vitamin and herbal companies for years, because it cuts into their profit margin.

And I have to say, (another thought here), how can anyone say anything with a straight face against marijuana or other illegal drugs, when all we have on TV is commercials from pharmaceutical companies promoting (pushing) drugs? They now make drugs to make other drugs more efficient. It is a racket, and a worse racket than the illegal drug trade, IMHO.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

We never come up with cures anymore,

The only "cures" we have ever come up with are vaccinations and bacteriophages (pennicillin, etc...IOW, antibiotics).

New antibiotics are developed every year.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

And I have to say, (another thought here), how can anyone say anything with a straight face against marijuana or other illegal drugs, when all we have on TV is commercials from pharmaceutical companies promoting (pushing) drugs? They now make drugs to make other drugs more efficient. It is a racket, and a worse racket than the illegal drug trade, IMHO.

You just made Nancy Reagan cry.

[tw]

Originally Posted by TGRR

New antibiotics are developed every year.

So what does that say about Bobby Jindal? That he is an inspiration for antibiotics or the reason antibiotics are necessary?

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by tw

So what does that say about Bobby Jindal? That he is an inspiration for antibiotics or the reason antibiotics are necessary?

Yes.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TGRR

The only "cures" we have ever come up with are vaccinations and bacteriophages (pennicillin, etc...IOW, antibiotics).

New antibiotics are developed every year.

We cured polio. Or maybe eradicated is a better word, at least in this country. And TB, although it is on the rise again. Leprosy. Small Pox. Should I continue? We don't even have a vaccine or cure for herpes.

And bacteria are becoming more resistant to all our antibiotics. Even syphilis and gonorrhea are on the rise again, and the new strains are very resistant to antibiotics, probably because ranchers and chicken farmers put them in the food supply, and doctor's write prescriptions for them when they shouldn't. But that is another topic.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

We never come up with cures anymore, we only come up with treatments, which benfits drug companies.

Originally Posted by sugarpop

We cured polio. Or maybe eradicated is a better word, at least in this country. And TB, although it is on the rise again. Leprosy. Small Pox. Should I continue? We don't even have a vaccine or cure for herpes.

Huh? Which is it? We do or don't?

[sugarpop]

We used to. We don't anymore. Which is why I said, it is more profitable for pharmaceutical cos to treat rather than cure, and why they no longer find cures, but treatments.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

We cured polio. Or maybe eradicated is a better word, at least in this country.

It ain't gone til it's dead.

So far, we've wiped out smallpox. That's it. Leprosy is still around, though recent work with the old boogeyman drug Thalidomide is showing real promise in treatment.

TB is back. Not coming back...back. You can thank both parties hamstringing the INS for that one.

[sugarpop]

You get my point though, right? If we could eradicate a disease in THIS country, we should have been able to eradicate it in the world. And, we aren't eradicating anything anymore.

[tw]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

If we could eradicate a disease in THIS country, we should have been able to eradicate it in the world.

An exception: malaria.

A discussions about diseases should always differentiate between bacteria, virus, and Jindal.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by tw

An exception: malaria.

A discussions about diseases should always differentiate between bacteria, virus, and Jindal.