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Old 02-08-2009, 07:41 PM   #1
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What passes for liberalism today isn't right, either.

Outside of Berkeley, anyway.
What do you mean by that?
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:46 PM   #2
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What do you mean by that?
I mean what passes for liberalism at Berkeley has zero to do with liberalism as understood by the founders and their contemporaries.
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:53 PM   #3
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I mean what passes for liberalism at Berkeley has zero to do with liberalism as understood by the founders and their contemporaries.
You mean kind of like what passes as conservatism in the republican party today has zero to do with conservatism as understood by the founders and their contemporaries?
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:42 PM   #4
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What passes for liberalism today isn't right, either.

Of course not - Its left - Duh!
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:48 PM   #5
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Well, I'm not a right leaning person. Definitely more liberal than conservative, but I don't have a problem with discussions here where my conservative friends get on their high horses and start sprouting horns and stuff. They're all pretty reasonable most of the time, and when they're not, I usually just stop talking to them, or start cracking jokes. We all have that right. I don't think any of them think I'm stupid for my views though, and I don't think they'd think that of anyone else either.

Sure, things get heated sometimes, and people start getting personal, but it blows over.

The important thing to remember is, the conservatives are always wrong, even if they don't realize it. It's our job as liberals to guide them through the murky waters of life to ultimate enlightenment.
wellll, they are entitled to their wrong opinion... :p
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:31 PM   #6
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YOU'RE WRONG Ali! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


now where is my damned horse
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:33 PM   #7
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YOU'RE WRONG Ali! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


now where is my damned horse
He is right here:

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Old 02-08-2009, 07:32 PM   #8
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lol...you make me laugh classic.

eta: you too merc.
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:48 PM   #9
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Well, I don't go to berkely and I don't really know what the founders of liberalism thought it should be like.

I've been labled a liberal on this board, so that's what I am for all intents and purposes through the course of discussions here.

I've been labled other things too, but they don't have much relevance to current events of political discussion.
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:57 PM   #10
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Well, I don't go to berkely and I don't really know what the founders of liberalism thought it should be like.

I've been labled a liberal on this board, so that's what I am for all intents and purposes through the course of discussions here.

I've been labled other things too, but they don't have much relevance to current events of political discussion.
I'm a proud liberal, and if I could afford to live in Berkley, I would go in a heartbeat! Hell yes!
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:59 PM   #11
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I'm a proud liberal, and if I could afford to live in Berkley, I would go in a heartbeat! Hell yes!
So, you support gun ownership, right?
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:02 PM   #12
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So, you support gun ownership, right?
Not if you want to live in Berkley! Diane Feinstein’s back yard. You know miss Gun-Grabber herself. The one who wants to take guns away from people yet she secretly owns one herself? pssst.... don't tell anyone.
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Old 02-09-2009, 05:59 AM   #13
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Not if you want to live in Berkley! Diane Feinstein’s back yard. You know miss Gun-Grabber herself. The one who wants to take guns away from people yet she secretly owns one herself? pssst.... don't tell anyone.
My point exactly.

A classic liberal doesn't believe in gun ownership...they INSIST on it. Fatally, if necessary.

What passes for liberalism today is something like watered down British nanny-statism.
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:04 PM   #14
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So, you support gun ownership, right?
I do. But I also support reasonable laws and regulations to keep them from getting into the wrong hands. And ftr, I do not own a gun. I have never owned a gun. I have never felt the need to own a gun. And I lived in Los Angeles for 10 years, 1 1/2 of which were in the hood in Venice. Never had a problem. Ever.
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:49 PM   #15
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That's true mate.
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