obama nation

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

Dubya said we'd be outta Iraq in like a year or something... maybe even a few months.

Yea but he didn't know wtf he was talking about so he gets a pass.

[Shawnee123]

Now all we can do is wait and see, I suppose.

And I can stop yelling at you.

[Sundae]

This post was to ask where to find the speeches, but I've found them now!

[warch]

After tearing up at the concession and acceptance speeches last night....Grant Park was simply amazing...I have a great sense of relief. Obama is a moderate. He's smart, bold, persuasive and creative, but also measured and cautious. I like our chances.

Checking the pulse of the cellar was interesting. When Obama started to capture the interest of staunch independent thinkers here, I grew very hopeful. Toad! Griff! To have a president that can unite and help move us out of the petty crap to take on the tough stuff...yow!

[Spectacle]

For everyone who didn't get to see the President Elect's speech.



The man can speak, everyone needs to accept that at the very least.

[Trilby]

an eight year pass. In which people died.

Nice gig if you can get it.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Brianna

an eight year pass. In which people died.

Nice gig if you can get it.

That is not what I said. Don't read into it.

[TheMercenary]

WOW! Powerful speech. He did a great job. That is the first time I got to hear the whole thing. Who ever wrote that did a historically good job.

[DanaC]

*nods*

I watched it again on youtube today. He said exactly what America and the world have been waiting to hear I think; unity, hope and strength.

Everyone's talking about it here. I cannot tell you how much this elevates your nation in our eyes. I had my ICQ running whilst I was studying last night, with the TV on as well. A good friend and ex-neighbour of mine was messaging me, just awestruck that you'd done it. The nervousness of the first polls closing, and the ardent hope was absolutely shared by people all over the world. My friend, a northern lad not much given to sentimentality, told me he had tears streaming down his face as we realised it was going to be an Obama victory on the night.

As a sidebar to this: the subject of my research last night was an 18th century journal, written by the wife of a naval officer who accompanied him on his travels. In one entry she describes them going aboard a slave carrying ship. There had been an outbreak of disease, with the captain, some crew and slaves affected. In order to stop the spread of the disease, the sick slaves were thrown overboard.

I read her description (she describes it as an inhuman act) of this event, one hour before I saw the son of a black man, married to a descendant of both slaves and slave owners, address the American nation, and the world, as President Elect of the USA.

Bloody hell. Just bloody hell.

[Cloud]

Originally Posted by DanaC

married to a descendant of both slaves and slave owners

is this accurate?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by DanaC

*nods*

I watched it again on youtube today. He said exactly what America and the world have been waiting to hear I think; unity, hope and strength.

Everyone's talking about it here. I cannot tell you how much this elevates your nation in our eyes. I had my ICQ running whilst I was studying last night, with the TV on as well. A good friend and ex-neighbour of mine was messaging me, just awestruck that you'd done it. The nervousness of the first polls closing, and the ardent hope was absolutely shared by people all over the world. My friend, a northern lad not much given to sentimentality, told me he had tears streaming down his face as we realised it was going to be an Obama victory on the night.

As a sidebar to this: the subject of my research last night was an 18th century journal, written by the wife of a naval officer who accompanied him on his travels. In one entry she describes them going aboard a slave carrying ship. There had been an outbreak of disease, with the captain, some crew and slaves affected. In order to stop the spread of the disease, the sick slaves were thrown overboard.

I read her description (she describes it as an inhuman act) of this event, one hour before I saw the son of a black man, married to a descendant of both slaves and slave owners, address the American nation, and the world, as President Elect of the USA.

Bloody hell. Just bloody hell.

Well stated. HOF material for me.

[Shawnee123]

That was awesome, DanaC.

[DanaC]

It's how he described his wife in his acceptance speech. he said she has both slaves and slave owners in her ancestry. Unless I have misheard that.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by DanaC

It's how he described his wife in his acceptance speech. he said she has both slaves and slave owners in her ancestry. Unless I have misheard that.

All American Blacks whose ancestry in America goes back to the days of slavery are presumed to have the blood of both a mammy and a massa or massa's boy in their genetic mix somewhere. Of course, there's no documentation. Or maybe she took one of those National Geographic sponsored DNA screenings to see how much of herself she should be proud of and how much she should revile.

[DanaC]

Or maybe she took one of those National Geographic sponsored DNA screenings to see how much of herself she should be proud of and how much she should revile

You make a huge assumption about how she'd view those parts of her ancestry that were slave owners. I have within me the blood of a conquered people and the blood of their conquerors. I have English, Indian, South-African (and most likely African) ancestry (there's some Irish and Jewish in there too). I would love to know more details of that, and I would not revile those who lived under different rules and a different cultural view of the world.