What is wrong with you people?

[Undertoad]

The 60-vote majority prevents filibuster. No, the trouble begins on day one when they have a blank slate of things to work on, everybody wants their pet project or pork to go first, there is no W. to blame on anything that goes wrong, and Congress continues its single-digit approval ratings.

[Griff]

That's where the bully pulpit comes into play. If Obama has better numbers than Congress, he may force them to send up clean bills. If not, it might be time to revisit the line item veto.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

My feeling has always been that the cost of gas will be whatever the market can bare, hence it will go back up to $4 and stay there.

That would explain why gas has dropped $1.50 but diesel and heating oil remain high.

Originally Posted by Griff

That's where the bully pulpit comes into play. If Obama has better numbers than Congress, he may force them to send up clean bills. If not, it might be time to revisit the line item veto.

Didn't Obama mention line item veto?

[tw]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Speaking out of one side of the mouth bitching at the costs of the war and speaking out the other side and saying, "hey let's spend the money on something else!". It does not sound like we are headed towards a repair of the debt from 8 years of war. Personally I think the damm Iraqi's should pay for part of it.

In 1990, the world demanded that Kuwait be liberated. So America did the work AND the world paid for it. Notice that a massive war resulted in little damage to the American economy.

In 2002, hardly anybody (not even Iraqis) demanded Saddam's overthrow. But the US decided to liberate people who really did not want the resulting destruction. As a result, only the US is responsible for those debts.

Worse, America believed what the liars said it would cost. Rumsfeld said it would cost only $2billion and be paid by Iraqi oil funds. Realistic number even obvious to me was more like $400billion. Actual number is maybe $1trillion. $1trillion to liberate people who mostly did not want that liberation AND that all Iraq's neighbors said was not necessary.

Robert Baer defines that was obvious then: We handed Iraq to Iran. Baer also says, "Neither Bush nor McCain understand this."

Kuwait was a war defined by a smoking gun. Therefore America paid very little. "Mission Accomplished" is an example of war justified by lies and by someone who said, "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter". Who pays? Welcome to a domestic economy that is just starting to pay those bills.

[serr8d]

McCain and Obama in a dead-heat? Really? I mean, I tried to be understanding for a while, but as we get farther from the conventions I'd think people would wake up and realize that electing a Republican isn't going to change anything... no matter what McCain says.

And you think electing Baracky is going to change anything? For the better? Do you not remember Jimmah Carter, and his mangling four years in the White House?

Baracky represents Carter's second term.

sO!cialism

I AM JOE

[richlevy]

Originally Posted by serr8d

McCain and Obama in a dead-heat? Really? I mean, I tried to be understanding for a while, but as we get farther from the conventions I'd think people would wake up and realize that electing a Republican isn't going to change anything... no matter what McCain says.

And you think electing Baracky is going to change anything? For the better? Do you not remember Jimmah Carter, and his mangling four years in the White House?

Baracky represents Carter's second term.

sO!cialism

I AM JOE

Folks the first thing every camper knows is to bury your food or hang it in a tree. If you don't, there's a good chance some hairy obnoxious beast is going to find it's way into your campground.