Rumors and Truth

[Shawnee123]

I have not received any PMs from you, because I DID have you on ignore, because your response to me when I challenged you was, as is typical for you these days, "put me on ignore if you don't like it."

So, I did. I don't believe ignored people's PMs come through, but I took you off yesterday and I've received none since.

You're not yourself these days. I understand, lord knows I've been out there more than once. But it's not just me you're mad at, that I can see clearly.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by classicman

Well then HM, maybe someone should be discussing that instead of the poster. You think?

BigV did, in the post immediately following yours. Brianna did, two posts later. And two posts after that, you started complaining.

And, as to the substance of your complaint, posting an article without comment is implicit support of that article. Posting an article and following it with a snide comment in support of that article moves a bit closer to explicit support of the article. But if you feel that your intentions were misinterpreted and you are hoping for more discussion of the substance of the article, you could offer your take on it.

As for me, I'll second BigV and Brianna.

[Undertoad]

What Obama's team is doing is standard operating procedure. It's called "walking-around money". You roust people off the street. You give em ten bucks and point them where to go and who to vote for.

Due to happen in Philly, too

It's just the machine operating like the machine operates.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

What Obama's team is doing is standard operating procedure. It's called "walking-around money". You roust people off the street. You give em ten bucks and point them where to go and who to vote for.

Due to happen in Philly, too

It's just the machine operating like the machine operates.

While I don't doubt that that happens frequently, the article seems to be about paying the campaign people (who would otherwise be volunteers). Maybe some of them convert themselves back to "volunteers" by passng it out to potential voters...

[Pico and ME]

So are the tricks used by the GOP to get voters of the rolls.

[Pico and ME]

Its still an effort at stacking the deck, isn't it?

[ZenGum]

Have you lot considered compulsory voting?

Down Under, you must turn up, get your name crossed off the roll, take your ballot paper into a booth, wave a pencil over it, and put it in the ballot box. (EDIT: There is no machine counting - poll workers do that by hand - but we almost always know who the new government is within 6 hours of the poll closing. There is a paper trail for a thorough count and any recounts that may be called for.)

It is also illegal to deliberately cast an informal vote, but it is a gazillion times more illegal to try to find out how someone else voted. So in effect, you have to turn up, but you don't really have to vote for any particular candidate.

Having worked at elections, a few people ( <5%) do this.

I like this because without compulsory voting, moderates are less likely to vote, while extremists are more likely, and extremist whackos (OMG, where did I get that phrase?) are over-represented in the final result.

The fine for not voting is $20.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

Have you lot considered compulsory voting?

Down Under, you must turn up, get your name crossed off the roll, take your ballot paper into a booth, wave a pencil over it, and put it in the ballot box. (EDIT: There is no machine counting - poll workers do that by hand - but we almost always know who the new government is within 6 hours of the poll closing. There is a paper trail for a thorough count and any recounts that may be called for.)

It is also illegal to deliberately cast an informal vote, but it is a gazillion times more illegal to try to find out how someone else voted. So in effect, you have to turn up, but you don't really have to vote for any particular candidate.

Having worked at elections, a few people ( <5%) do this.

I like this because without compulsory voting, moderates are less likely to vote, while extremists are more likely, and extremist whackos (OMG, where did I get that phrase?) are over-represented in the final result.

The fine for not voting is $20.

Might work if we only used the population of Texas, sort of like you all down there. Not in this country. People love to compare our health situation to Canada, France, and esp the UK. Well you know what, combine all those populations and you still don't come close to the number of people in the US. You can't take a micro economy and compare the workable solutions to a macro economy. On top of the South Park would make lots of fun of you...

[HungLikeJesus]

But they could use all those $20 fines to pay for the bail out.

[BigV]

For a taste of some real uninformed dialog, and I use the term loosely, click here.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by BigV

For a taste of some real uninformed dialog, and I use the term loosely, click here.

Most of the bloggers spelled Ayers name incorrectly too. Oh well I guess everyone gets to vote no matter how ill informed they are.

[Bullitt]

Originally Posted by classicman

Oh well I guess everyone gets to vote no matter how ill informed they are.

Unfortunately.... rag on me all you want but I think a short quiz at the polls before you cast your vote should be required. So you know, people at least know where Iraq is, etc. before helping to decide who is the next prez.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Bullitt

Unfortunately.... rag on me all you want but I think a short quiz at the polls before you cast your vote should be required. So you know, people at least know where Iraq is, etc. before helping to decide who is the next prez.

How is this any different? You folks are unreal.

[classicman]

Barack Obama (D)
Expenditures Breakdown

I cannot quote the site, so I'm just providing the link.
It is pretty interesting to see where the money goes.

Polling $21,500,862
Travel $39,345,592
~~~~~~~~~~~~~

John McCain (R)
Expenditures Breakdown


Travel $19,812,518
Loan Payments $8,695,028

[classicman]

I was not ragging on you Bullitt - that was more directed at the likes of ACORN and its endless subsidiaries and whatnot. Pulling people off the street and outta shelters to vote.