Those Bad Ol' Iraqis? - Page 6

tw · 03-15-2007, 01:45 AM

To benchmark yourself - do you appreciate their perspective? If so, then you know about this so very popular movie in Turkey:
Valley of the Wolves Iraq

Actual news was reported internationally; but I heard nothing about it in mainstream America where such reports back then would have been regarded with anti-American contempt. Simply a benchmark for measuring your "perspectives".

{Postscript - 'you' is not Aliantha. "You" is the lurker.}

Aliantha · 03-15-2007, 01:50 AM

As I said, I was joking. I don't hate America. I don't hate any particular nation. Every nation on this earth is guilty of human rights attrocities and has members of the military who have been accused of if not convicted of war crimes. If I hated America for these things, I'd have to hate everyone in the world.

03-15-2007, 01:53 AM

From what I've seen the average Iranian does not dislike America.

03-16-2007, 02:56 PM

Where are you people getting that Iranians hate the US?
Everything that I have seen and read states that the average Iranian likes the US. It is only the hard-liners and a small minority that dislikes the West. They happen to be in control of the government, but that is not representative of the average Iranian, not by a long-shot.

bluesdave · 03-17-2007, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Where are you people getting that Iranians hate the US?
Everything that I have seen and read states that the average Iranian likes the US. It is only the hard-liners and a small minority that dislikes the West. They happen to be in control of the government, but that is not representative of the average Iranian, not by a long-shot.

What are you basing this on? Polls? As I pointed out to tw, Giuliani is currently leading the polls on who will win the Republican ticket, but who really believes that he will? My guess is that he will not even make the convention next year, let alone be the GOP candidate. Most people in third-world countries (such as Iran and Pakistan), would die to live in the West (the USA is no. 1 choice). If they are asked if they hate the US, they are going to answer no. What idiot would risk jeopardising their chances of emigrating from their third-world homeland to the US, by answering yes? The affirmative answer is only given by the hard-liners.

I do *not* want these countries to hate the USA or the West. I *want* them to see us as friends, but I also realise that if I had had family killed in a bloody war, supported in part by the West, I would have some feelings about this. Also, the regular mosque attendees are being brainwashed by religious fanatics, that the West, headed by the US, is evil. I know that the majority of the congregation will not absorb this nonsense, but some will, and do - otherwise we would not have terrorists, and suicide bombers.

I do not want war. I love peace. I love Australia, and I even love the USA. Next to my home, and a great fishing/holiday location up the coast from where I live, I love New York and most things American.

piercehawkeye45 · 03-16-2007, 05:02 PM

My roommate was watching 'Good Morning America' and Diane Stoyer or whatever her name is went to Iran and made a huge idiot out of herself. There were anti-US and anti-Bush protests and she would go up to them and pretend to be really confused as they treated her with respect. "They are shouting 'Die America' and then they help me with my head covering, I don't get". Stupid...

03-17-2007, 11:55 PM

I have read about this in the paper, seen reporters that have gone into the nation, all parts and read articles on it.
It is common knowledge.
Where are you getting your information that we are commonly hated among Iranians?
This is the first I have heard it.
Polls are for plebs & Iranians don't trust their government.

Undertoad · 03-18-2007, 09:35 AM

Uh.... why don't we ask the Cellar Dwellar who actually traveled to north western Pakistan and met the people there, what they think of Americans?

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=8198

"...it's a fascinating place to visit and they treat white Americans like no less than rock stars."

bluesdave · 03-18-2007, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Uh.... why don't we ask the Cellar Dwellar who actually traveled to north western Pakistan and met the people there, what they think of Americans?

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=8198

One man, spent one week in one village. Hmm, yes that is definitive proof. I wonder what his experience would have been like if he had travelled to South West, and Southern Pakistan?

tw, I'm sick of you selectively quoting me, and ignoring other comments I have made. There is no point in arguing with you. I am finished here.

03-22-2007, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Uh.... why don't we ask the Cellar Dwellar who actually traveled to north western Pakistan and met the people there, what they think of Americans?

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=8198

"...it's a fascinating place to visit and they treat white Americans like no less than rock stars."

I have yet to post anything about Pakistan. Where did that come from?

03-15-2007, 01:45 AM	#1
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	To benchmark yourself - do you appreciate their perspective? If so, then you know about this so very popular movie in Turkey: Valley of the Wolves Iraq Actual news was reported internationally; but I heard nothing about it in mainstream America where such reports back then would have been regarded with anti-American contempt. Simply a benchmark for measuring your "perspectives". {Postscript - 'you' is not Aliantha. "You" is the lurker.} Last edited by tw; 03-15-2007 at 01:52 AM.

03-15-2007, 01:50 AM	#2
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	As I said, I was joking. I don't hate America. I don't hate any particular nation. Every nation on this earth is guilty of human rights attrocities and has members of the military who have been accused of if not convicted of war crimes. If I hated America for these things, I'd have to hate everyone in the world. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

03-15-2007, 01:53 AM	#3
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	From what I've seen the average Iranian does not dislike America.

03-16-2007, 02:56 PM	#4
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Where are you people getting that Iranians hate the US? Everything that I have seen and read states that the average Iranian likes the US. It is only the hard-liners and a small minority that dislikes the West. They happen to be in control of the government, but that is not representative of the average Iranian, not by a long-shot.

03-16-2007, 05:02 PM	#6
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	My roommate was watching 'Good Morning America' and Diane Stoyer or whatever her name is went to Iran and made a huge idiot out of herself. There were anti-US and anti-Bush protests and she would go up to them and pretend to be really confused as they treated her with respect. "They are shouting 'Die America' and then they help me with my head covering, I don't get". Stupid...

03-17-2007, 11:55 PM	#7
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	I have read about this in the paper, seen reporters that have gone into the nation, all parts and read articles on it. It is common knowledge. Where are you getting your information that we are commonly hated among Iranians? This is the first I have heard it. Polls are for plebs & Iranians don't trust their government.

03-18-2007, 09:35 AM	#8
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Uh.... why don't we ask the Cellar Dwellar who actually traveled to north western Pakistan and met the people there, what they think of Americans? http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=8198 "...it's a fascinating place to visit and they treat white Americans like no less than rock stars."

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