JUDGE: PRES. BUSH'S WIRETAP PROGRAM VIOLATES CONSTITUTION & MUST STOP

[MaggieL]

Originally Posted by headsplice

And I've moved left

Well, watch this space. The evening is young, and so are you.

Originally Posted by headsplice

RE: Diggs-Taylor's potential links to the ACLU:
Probably not a big deal. After, Scalia didn't recuse himself from the SCOTUS case involving the VP, and they're friends.

There's a whopping big difference between not recusing and not even disclosing...and this is a case of not disclosing. I don't think anyone was unaware of the Scalia-Cheney friendship.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by headsplice

Simple answer: not by blowing shit up or undermining civil liberties (those pesky little things that make us BETTER than the rest of the world), but by NOT BEING TERRORIZED.

I include under "not being terrorized" embassies not blown up, the USS Cole not damaged with 17 dead, and the WTC not being attacked twice, nor the Pentagon once.

Seems this hasn't quite happened.

We've a problem: fanatical bigots attack us. Convert these to good bigots by killing them in ways that make other bigots know it's extremely unsafe, and makes for not only a solitary, poor, nasty, and brutish life to attack us, but a short one as well. Deprive the fanatical anti-Americans any advantage, of any sort.

Do these antis wish to scream at us about Israel? Advise them they are being immoral, and back it up by vaporizing the anti-Israelites. They really should have learned their lesson from 1948 and 1956, when Israel showed the whole planet God wanted Israel to be, twice over. All we're doing is helping God's manifest plan.

The eastern Mediterranean could be enriching itself in trade with a highly successful country, but it foolishly refuses to do this -- how moronic can you get? Nobody paid much attention to that stretch of the Mediterranean littoral until a bunch of Jews moved in and made a success of the place. If the Arabs would do as the Israelis do... "There'd be a lot less people to worry about, and a lot more people who care."

[WabUfvot5]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

We've a problem: fanatical bigots attack us. Convert these to good bigots by killing them in ways that make other bigots know it's extremely unsafe, and makes for not only a solitary, poor, nasty, and brutish life to attack us, but a short one as well. Deprive the fanatical anti-Americans any advantage, of any sort.

Uh, most the fanatical ones are willing to die for their cause. I don't think they fear dying...

[MaggieL]

Speaking of scrutiny:

Originally Posted by Judicial Watch

According to her 2003 and 2004 financial disclosure statements, Judge Diggs Taylor served as Secretary and Trustee for the Community Foundation for Southeastern Michigan (CFSEM). She was reelected to this position in June 2005. The official CFSEM website states that the foundation made a “recent grant” of $45,000 over two years to the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Michigan, a plaintiff in the wiretapping case. Judge Diggs Taylor sided with the ACLU of Michigan in her recent decision.

According to the CFSEM website, “The Foundation’s trustees make all funding decisions at meetings held on a quarterly basis.”

“This potential conflict of interest merits serious investigation,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “If Judge Diggs Taylor failed to disclose this link to a plaintiff in a case before her court, it would certainly call into question her judgment.”

(Judge Diggs Taylor is also the presiding judge in another case where she may have a conflict of interest. The Arab Community Center for Social and Economic Services (ACCESS) is a defendant in another case now before Judge Diggs Taylor’s court [Case No. 06-10968 (Mich. E.D.)]. In 2003, the CFSEM donated $180,000 to ACCESS.)

OK, I take it back. Maybe she is Taliban.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

What makes us tired is that somehow all the findings of people like these are clearly aimed not at increasing, but reducing US effectiveness in prosecuting the GWOT. This "we must lose because we're, uh, America" attitude is nonsense, and must go if we really want a good world.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

What makes us tired is that somehow all the findings of people like these are clearly aimed not at increasing, but reducing US effectiveness in prosecuting the GWOT. This "we must lose because we're, uh, America" attitude is nonsense, and must go if we really want a good world.

Here's an easy way to win the GWOT: All American citizens must have an identification number tattooed on their forehead, and an identifying microchip implanted rectally. Anyone in America must submit to daily body cavity searches, and weekly home and business searches, as well as random automobile searches. Then, we should just use our nukuler weapons on the rest of the world. With this strategy in place, we'll win the GWOT in a heartbeat!

[richlevy]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

but reducing US effectiveness in prosecuting the GWOT.

Uh oh, we have an official acronym now. Ok folks, an acronym has been assigned and discussion is over, let's all pack up, ASAP.

[headsplice]

Actually, I don't think there is much of a difference, legally speaking. The judge in question is the ultimate arbiter of whether or not there's a conflict of interest (which I think is a bunch of horsecrap, but that's another thread). I'm pretty sure there's no legal requirement for a judge to even disclose if there's even of potential COI. The flip side of that is there's more than likely an ethical necessity, but since when do ethics and law coincide?

[Kitsune]

The President has decided to reduce US effectiveness in prosecuting the GWOT.

...wait, he what?

[Flint]

Oh boy, I'm glad that whole thing is finally over! I bet all you Bush-Haters feel pretty silly now. See, things worked out just fine, as usual (oh ye of little faith). Nothing more to see here, move along now. Hey! Move it along, we said. Now!

Central Control, we got us a Freedom-Hater in sector 7G.. Release the hounds!

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Kitsune

The President has decided to reduce US effectiveness in prosecuting the GWOT.

...wait, he what?

I'm gonna wait until the House and Senate Intelligence Committees have a look at exactly what he's doing before I believe it. I'm guessing this is pretty much lip service.