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05-20-2009, 03:44 AM | #77 | |
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05-20-2009, 05:28 AM | #78 | |
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Im all for the txt, its a tester of sorts and she will either ignore it (which I think would be a totally low act IMO) or it will start a conversation that needs to happen. When Friday comes around, I believe you've given her enough time to sort through her thoughts andshe should be willing to open the lines of communication, even if its just with a *I want to talk, but Im not quite ready* type of thing. Good luck, one day at a time. |
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Repeated painful rehashes maybe not. Some kind of explanation, or closure contact is probably courteous to most people.
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I don't know how much they've talked about it already, so only he can decide whether it's appropriate to make contact again.
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05-20-2009, 12:56 PM | #82 |
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So why's he askin' us?
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05-20-2009, 02:07 PM | #83 |
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I would say that she does owe him an explanation. Whether that will be forthcoming in the short term is another matter.
I had to wait 5 years for one (particularly enlightening) explanation.
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05-20-2009, 02:14 PM | #84 |
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Assuming there was really no more to the dialogue than what he typed in the OP, then yes, I would say she should do him the basic human courtesy of explaining why she's ending the relationship. I didn't want to make that assumption, though, and he hasn't really said one way or the other.
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05-20-2009, 05:46 PM | #85 |
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Its possible that she has simply met someone else and that is the reason for the troubles in the relationship. If this was after only a month or two of dating, then simply disappearing is fine. But if it is after a year or so worth, then she is a pig for doing it this way.
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05-20-2009, 07:31 PM | #86 |
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Or, she may have realized that he is wrong for her, and have been struggling with it for a while. None of us know. We don't even know if they discussed it at all.
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05-20-2009, 08:06 PM | #87 |
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The additional dialogue was that she said I'd betrayed her for not giving her more time. That I'd gone back on my word that it was going to be a no-pressure weekend.
I took her literally when she said "I want to be surprised." I figured that meant it was ok from there on out. Personally, and I'm sure there will be those disagree, I don't think I betrayed her. In my mind, betrayal suggests malice (or at least forthought.) I, on the other hand, am incompetent. |
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Why did you take her at her word that she wanted to be surprised - a vague statement - but not take her at her word that she wanted a no-pressure weekend - a specific statement? Especially since she almost didn't go and was convinced to by your promise to make it a no-pressure weekend? You lured her into a trip she didn't want to take with a promise you had no intention of keeping. If I were put in that position, I would feel that it was because you were placing your desires ahead of respect for me, and I would almost certainly have reacted the same way... accepted the engagement under the pressure of the moment, especially because of being a captive audience without the ability to just walk away from conflict and go home if it blew up into an emotional scene. You put her in a very, very uncomfortable, awkward position, to be quite honest, even though she asked you not to. What was she to do? Turn you down and then... what? She could have no idea how you would react to rejection (unless she does have an idea - only you know) and she was trapped with you away from home. I suppose she could have packed her bags and found transportation somehow, depending on how far from a town you were. Safer to just say yes and play along until she's home, then break it off. Cowardly? Maybe so. But as a woman, sometimes being a coward is a safer bet. |
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I don't think it's betrayal. Maybe not listening closely enough, but certainly not betrayal.
It's all fine to be ernest and sincere, but sometimes you've just got to bide your time as you're learning now. Either way, you'd still be in the same position I think.
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Her feelings and his intentions are two different things, IMO. I can understand her sense of betrayal, even though it was not his intention.
I also think that he really really needs to revisit his train of thought when he decided to tell her "no pressure" to get her to go on the trip, while planning the ultimate pressure possible... it was basically a deliberate lie designed to get her to be in a position she explicitly stated she did not want, and yet he seems convinced that it wasn't due to her saying she wanted to be surprised by what he had planned for the trip. In that context, it seems obvious that the kind of "surprise" that would not conflict with the promise of no pressure would be something more along the lines of lobster dinner or a trip to the sea lion caves. |
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