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barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy.
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don't forget vacationing jinx
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UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION
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Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya?
Join Date: Jun 2006
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@ Clod.
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The Un-Tuckian
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Central...KY that is
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Oh, for God's sake, let's not question anything...
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I can hear my ears
Join Date: Oct 2003
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question *these*
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This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan |
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The Un-Tuckian
Join Date: Apr 2007
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They miss you.
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“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Savannah, Georgia
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SO basically
Welfare State = Good Personal Responsiblity = Bad. Correct? |
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We have to go back, Kate!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Yorkshire
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No. That's not what I believe in.
Welfare state = necessary Personal responsibility = also necessary. I don't see thse as mutually exclusive. I have a personal responsibility and I also share in a societal responsibility.
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“Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo”
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I don't want you to think this a total dig on you, more so what the attitude is (not that I need to tell you this). But somewhere there is a grey area. For some that is the width of a street, for others the width of the Channel. In that area lays both personal responsibility and Government responsibility. IMHO, in this country we have fostered and developed generations of people dependent on public assistance. We are seeing a resurgence with the latest roles of unemployment. People have just given up. Obama will save them. It is a false notion.
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The future is unwritten
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One has nothing to do with the other. The welfare crowd isn't worried about becoming unemployed, they already are. The millions of people who've been throw out of work are depending on unemployment insurance, as we always have. That doesn't mean they are not looking for work. Yes, they are looking to our President, because they know they probably won't find work until the economy picks up. That's what they hear from employers and the media, and our President seems to be the only one that's trying to do anything about it.
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Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya?
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Yeah, our societal responsibility (as Dana so eloquently put it) is nothing new. It's not as if Obama came into office and everyone voluntarily quit working and went on unemployment, amid shouts of "YAY, we can loll about now! Woo hooo! I LOVES some struggles."
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We have to go back, Kate!
Join Date: Apr 2004
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i agree, there is definately a grey area. There's a point at which assistance ceases to be paliative and begins to form the central foundation of someone's life. At that point it is clear something has gone badly wrong.
Where i suspect we differ is in our response to that grey area.
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We have to go back, Kate!
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fair enough. Ignore anything I say at the moment. I'm really not myself.
i just had a stand up row with someone on the BF forum about girls and gaming. *shrugs* I am a heartbeat away from rage or tears at any given moment. I tried to explain that last night, but I probably didn;t do it very well :P
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Come on, cat.
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area
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Does BF = Breast Feeding? Because that would explain everything...
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has a second hand user title
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: in a Nut House
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The nursing mom defense. I'm still hearing it nearly two years after weaning...
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