Machines - Page 53

Flint · 12-10-2019, 12:54 PM

At first I counted the headers on the Green Monster --48!!-- but I guess it's "just" 24 cylinders.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-10-2019, 12:59 PM

Yes, four engines.
I read long long ago those zoomie headers pointing up produce a downforce of a couple hundred pounds for just one engine.

Gravdigr · 12-11-2019, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Diaphone Jim

My 8N could take any of 'em.

To the concession stand, maybe.

Flint · 12-11-2019, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Yes, four engines.
I read long long ago those zoomie headers pointing up produce a downforce of a couple hundred pounds for just one engine.

Thought the Allisons were V-12.

I did not know that about the upward-facing headers.
Cool engineering trick to keep your wheels stuck to the ground.

Diaphone Jim · 12-11-2019, 07:28 PM

They are 12's, hence 48 pipes.
The front ends just sort of wander around.
Do US pulls use a sled with a driver?

Gravdigr · 12-11-2019, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Diaphone Jim

Do US pulls use a sled with a driver?

Yesirree.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-12-2019, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Thought the Allisons were V-12.

You're right, I was looking at the wrong one.

Flint · 12-12-2019, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Thought the Allisons were V-12.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

You're right, I was looking at the wrong one.

Thought I remembered seeing this at the Don Garlits Museum in Florida...

xoxoxoBruce · 12-12-2019, 11:23 PM

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In 1959-60, the Chet Herbert sponsored twin SBC motor FED of Lefty Mudersbach had Herbert's version of those upswept pipes, similar to the so called "zoomies" on the later model Hemi powered FEDs.

In the early days before slipper clutches and wrinkle wall slicks the tire would produce so much smoke you often couldn't see the driver, and he couldn't see the track. The initial purpose was to blow smoke away from the driver and as a bonus if any fluid came out of the header(a bad thing) it wouldn't go down on the track in front of the tire like the weed burners.

For some reason I think it was Garlits who discovered the downforce effect but not sure.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-12-2019, 11:42 PM

The Hell Cub is owned by Diversatech Incorporated - American Manufacturing in
Pennington, NJ, just above Trenton. I want to get hold of them after the holidays to see if they can do some lazer engraving for me, so Maybe I can see this beast. I'd like to see the driveline.

glatt · 12-13-2019, 09:25 AM

My grandfather had one of those, and I drove it a lot one summer 30 years ago. His only modification was to have a hose in the radiator cap leading to a plastic jug so he could catch the water that boiled out of the radiator and pour it back in while out in the field.

In hindsight, I wonder why he didn't just use some compressed air to blow the fins of the radiator clean of all the dried grass clippings packed in there.

I learned how to use a grease gun to grease the sickle mower attachment before each use. That was the only maintenance.

It was sold a couple years later for $800, which seemed a little low to me for a tractor that worked.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-14-2019, 02:45 AM

Bulletin: It's winter, DUH

This is Oregon but ice happens way down in Texas too.

glatt · 12-14-2019, 06:50 AM

That looks like hell, but I wonder how many of the carried vehicles are actually completely undamaged?

xoxoxoBruce · 12-14-2019, 02:39 PM

Undamaged until the whole rig drops off the cliff.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-16-2019, 01:01 AM

One of the first Gradalls, unique idea and all hydraulic.

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12-10-2019, 12:59 PM	#782
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Yes, four engines. I read long long ago those zoomie headers pointing up produce a downforce of a couple hundred pounds for just one engine. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-12-2019, 11:42 PM	#790
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	The Hell Cub is owned by Diversatech Incorporated - American Manufacturing in Pennington, NJ, just above Trenton. I want to get hold of them after the holidays to see if they can do some lazer engraving for me, so Maybe I can see this beast. I'd like to see the driveline. Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-14-2019, 02:45 AM	#792
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Bulletin: It's winter, DUH This is Oregon but ice happens way down in Texas too. Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-14-2019, 02:39 PM	#794
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Undamaged until the whole rig drops off the cliff. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-11-2019, 07:28 PM	#785
Diaphone Jim Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,122	They are 12's, hence 48 pipes. The front ends just sort of wander around. Do US pulls use a sled with a driver?

12-13-2019, 09:25 AM	#791
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	My grandfather had one of those, and I drove it a lot one summer 30 years ago. His only modification was to have a hose in the radiator cap leading to a plastic jug so he could catch the water that boiled out of the radiator and pour it back in while out in the field. In hindsight, I wonder why he didn't just use some compressed air to blow the fins of the radiator clean of all the dried grass clippings packed in there. I learned how to use a grease gun to grease the sickle mower attachment before each use. That was the only maintenance. It was sold a couple years later for $800, which seemed a little low to me for a tractor that worked.

12-14-2019, 06:50 AM	#793
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	That looks like hell, but I wonder how many of the carried vehicles are actually completely undamaged?

12-16-2019, 01:01 AM	#795
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	One of the first Gradalls, unique idea and all hydraulic. Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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