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Old 06-06-2007, 08:49 PM   #766
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If you are not a legal member of nation, that nation's rights do not apply to you.
Pretty easy... you have the right to legally immigrate or leave.
I was not ridiculing you, just your statement... there is a difference.
We need to end this thread-jack.
I agree with you about immigration. HM is right - this is no thread jack, Radar and Bruce need to respond.
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Old 06-06-2007, 08:55 PM   #767
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This thread was jacked at page 5. All hope is lost for it.
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:50 PM   #768
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But Radar's point is that rights don't come from nations; they are innate to humanity.
That's right, countries can only limit or curtail your rights.
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:59 PM   #769
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yeah. rights are rights....the violation of them does not destroy them, it just....violates them.
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:48 PM   #770
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National borders are obviously a limit imposed by government. Does a Mexican have the inalienable right to walk across the border into the US?
Yes, they do. All people have the right to travel freely. The government might violate this right, but they still have it.
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