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Old 07-24-2005, 04:52 PM   #1
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Well, let's look at the NRA.

When then director Wayne LaPierre wrote a fund-raising letter painting all goverment agents as 'jackbooted thugs', former President G.H. Bush resigned in protest.

Some members embraced his comments, and other distanced themselves from them. So, did Mr. LaPierre speak for the entire organization when he placed his comments in a fund-raising letter mailed by the organization?
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Old 07-24-2005, 05:35 PM   #2
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That's why I never went for the NRA lifetime membership. If they piss me off and I quit (which did happen), it doesn't matter to them. They've already got my money.
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:33 PM   #3
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Some members embraced his comments, and other distanced themselves from them. So, did Mr. LaPierre speak for the entire organization when he placed his comments in a fund-raising letter mailed by the organization?
If he or the rest of the NRA leadership stood by the comments, then they should all be tarred with the same brush. If they repudiated it, then his comments do not speak for the organization.
What did the leadership of the organization do after the fact? According to a cursory glance at the article, WLaP did make a sort-of apology for his comments.
My personal take on it: way to go, Huge Berserk Rebel Warthog !
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Old 07-28-2005, 12:48 PM   #4
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Did you see their reasoning?

(Go HERE, then select S8686, then scroll to SEC 1073)
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(1) FINDINGS.--Congress makes the following findings:

(A) Section 8 of article I of the Constitution of the United States commits exclusively to Congress the powers to raise and support armies, provide and maintain a Navy, and make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces.

(B) Under those powers conferred by section 8 of article I of the Constitution of the United States to provide, support, and maintain the Armed Forces, it lies within the discretion of Congress to provide opportunities to train the Armed Forces.

(C) The primary purpose of the Armed Forces is to defend our national security and prepare for combat should the need arise.

(D) One of the most critical elements in defending the Nation and preparing for combat is training in conditions that simulate the preparation, logistics, and leadership required for defense and combat.

(E) Support for youth organization events simulates the preparation, logistics, and leadership required for defending our national security and preparing for combat.

(F) For example, Boy Scouts of America's National Scout Jamboree is a unique training event for the Armed Forces, as it requires the construction, maintenance, and disassembly of a ``tent city'' capable of supporting tens of thousands of people for a week or longer. Camporees at the United States Military Academy for Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts provide similar training opportunities on a smaller scale.
Supporting the Scouts is supporting national security!
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Old 07-28-2005, 07:24 PM   #5
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Did you see their reasoning?

(Go HERE, then select S8686, then scroll to SEC 1073)
Supporting the Scouts is supporting national security!
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(F) For example, Boy Scouts of America's National Scout Jamboree is a unique training event for the Armed Forces, as it requires the construction, maintenance, and disassembly of a ``tent city'' capable of supporting tens of thousands of people for a week or longer. Camporees at the United States Military Academy for Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts provide similar training opportunities on a smaller scale.
Sooooo, does this mean that we can get the military to host Plastic Forks if we can come up with another 10,000 people?
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Old 07-28-2005, 07:33 PM   #6
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Sooooo, does this mean that we can get the military to host Plastic Forks if we can come up with another 10,000 people?

Sweeeeeet! They have the best fireworks too.
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Old 07-28-2005, 01:53 PM   #7
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I reckon there's considerable affinity between the two organizations. They are structured similarly, they share very much the same values, and I believe that the Armed Services recognizes these things. I believe the chance to plant favorable seeds in fertile young minds for the cost of a base-wide drill can be easily justified as a recruiting expense.
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Old 07-28-2005, 05:04 PM   #8
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Just what we need, officers that stick tent poles into power lines.
Oh and don't forget the DOD has been supplying them with bullets for years.... but it hasn't helped.
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Old 07-28-2005, 08:18 PM   #9
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We can barely get 10 Dwellars to Forks, much less 10,000.
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Old 07-28-2005, 09:24 PM   #10
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We can barely get 10 Dwellars to Forks, much less 10,000.
...but what if they could get to drive a tank?
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Old 07-29-2005, 12:45 AM   #11
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Old 07-30-2005, 10:58 PM   #12
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Sure we could all sit in the sun waiting for Bush to not show up like a bunch of drones.
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