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Undertoad · 10-11-2004, 07:14 AM

This whole thing makes me uncomfortable, and here's why. In 1998 I advised a candidate who went into a televised statewide debate for Pennsylvania Governor. His major opposition was Tom Ridge - that one, the guy who became head of Homeland Security. Ridge had this enormous device behind his ear during the debate and we were certain he was getting advice from offstage. We said so publicly. Turned out he's almost deaf and has always worn this same hearing aid.

I never feared to attack the opposition hard for things that were real, but that mistake made me feel awful.

Griff · 10-11-2004, 07:21 AM

Ouch. Probably combat related hearing loss with Ridge as well? Not something you want to fool with. In Bushes case hearing loss would more likely be from passing out by a speaker at a frat party... not that I'd be familiar with scenarios like that.

Clodfobble · 10-11-2004, 09:24 AM

Or maybe not. The mikes were podium-mounted.

FWIW, in important live audio scenarios there are often multiple mics ready to go, in case one fails.

Happy Monkey · 10-11-2004, 10:13 AM

Indeed, and, as per the debate agreement, there was a backup podium mike identical to the primary one.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-11-2004, 07:44 PM

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Turned out he's almost deaf and has always worn this same hearing aid

But that doesn't mean they didn't put a reciever in it.

10-11-2004, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

But that doesn't mean they didn't put a reciever in it.

Nah, George gets his messages thru the fillings in his teeth like everyone else.

richlevy · 10-11-2004, 10:46 PM

I am still amazed at the list of people who have come out against Bush. While Zel Miller, a seemingly crazed ex-Dixiecrat, endorsed Bush at the Republican convention, Kerry is getting support from the sons of Presidents Reagan and Eisenhower, not to mention numerous military, cabinet, and other officials from previous Democratic and Republican administrations.

wolf · 10-13-2004, 10:27 PM

From tonight ... rough paraphrase ... "looking at my opponent, you see that Ted Kennedy is the Conservative Senator from Massachussetts."

Happy Monkey · 10-13-2004, 10:52 PM

Not true of course, but the "Most Liberal" label has been thoroughly debunked elsewhere.

On the other hand, Bush didn't remember making this quote:

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13 march 2003 press conference: Q: Mr. President, in your speeches now, you rarely talk or mention Osama bin Laden. Why is that? [...]

BUSH: ... I don't know where he is. Nor -- you know, I just don't spend that much time on him really, to be honest with you [...]

Q: Do you believe the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead of alive?

BUSH: As I say, we hadn't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, you know, again, I don't know where he is.

I'll repeat what I said: I truly am not that concerned about him.

10-13-2004, 11:02 PM

"Being lectured by the president on fiscal responsibility is a little bit like Tony Soprano talking to me about law and order," Kerry said, referring to the murderous mob boss in the U.S. television program "The Sopranos."

Elspode · 10-13-2004, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy

I am still amazed at the list of people who have come out against Bush. While Zel Miller, a seemingly crazed ex-Dixiecrat, endorsed Bush at the Republican convention, Kerry is getting support from the sons of Presidents Reagan and Eisenhower, not to mention numerous military, cabinet, and other officials from previous Democratic and Republican administrations.

Well, Ronnie Jr. always did sort of tread a waaaayyyy different path from his dad, so that's not a big surprise.

Happy Monkey · 10-14-2004, 07:01 AM

Here's a transcript with in-line fact checks.

Happy Monkey · 10-14-2004, 09:59 AM

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Q: Suddenly we find ourselves with a severe shortage of flu vaccine. How did that happen?

BUSH: Bob, we relied upon a company out of England to provide about half of the flu vaccines for the United States citizen, and it turned out that the vaccine they were producing was contaminated. And so we took the right action and didn't allow contaminated medicine into our country.

We're working with Canada to hopefully -- that they'll produce a -- help us realize the vaccine necessary to make sure our citizens have got flu vaccinations during this upcoming season.

But Americans shouldn't be allowed to buy drugs from Canada until there are procedures in place to detect contaminated medicine from foreign sources.

flippant · 10-14-2004, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by marichiko

Nah, George gets his messages thru the fillings in his teeth like everyone else.

OOOPS! I've never needed a filling. Maybe this is why I always get the feeling that Dubl-ya and Cheney are secretly knowing a lot of things I don't know.

ladysycamore · 10-14-2004, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by marichiko

"Being lectured by the president on fiscal responsibility is a little bit like Tony Soprano talking to me about law and order," Kerry said, referring to the murderous mob boss in the U.S. television program "The Sopranos."

Was that not the BEST line? LMAO! Sycamore and I just cracked up laughing.

GO KERRY!

10-11-2004, 07:21 AM	#62
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Ouch. Probably combat related hearing loss with Ridge as well? Not something you want to fool with. In Bushes case hearing loss would more likely be from passing out by a speaker at a frat party... not that I'd be familiar with scenarios like that. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis Last edited by Griff; 10-11-2004 at 10:00 AM. Reason: knew there was a c missing somewhere

10-11-2004, 10:13 AM	#64
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Indeed, and, as per the debate agreement, there was a backup podium mike identical to the primary one. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

10-11-2004, 10:46 PM	#67
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	I am still amazed at the list of people who have come out against Bush. While Zel Miller, a seemingly crazed ex-Dixiecrat, endorsed Bush at the Republican convention, Kerry is getting support from the sons of Presidents Reagan and Eisenhower, not to mention numerous military, cabinet, and other officials from previous Democratic and Republican administrations. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

10-13-2004, 10:27 PM	#68
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	From tonight ... rough paraphrase ... "looking at my opponent, you see that Ted Kennedy is the Conservative Senator from Massachussetts." __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

10-14-2004, 07:01 AM	#72
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Here's a transcript with in-line fact checks. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

10-11-2004, 07:14 AM	#61
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	This whole thing makes me uncomfortable, and here's why. In 1998 I advised a candidate who went into a televised statewide debate for Pennsylvania Governor. His major opposition was Tom Ridge - that one, the guy who became head of Homeland Security. Ridge had this enormous device behind his ear during the debate and we were certain he was getting advice from offstage. We said so publicly. Turned out he's almost deaf and has always worn this same hearing aid. I never feared to attack the opposition hard for things that were real, but that mistake made me feel awful.

10-11-2004, 09:24 AM	#63
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Or maybe not. The mikes were podium-mounted. FWIW, in important live audio scenarios there are often multiple mics ready to go, in case one fails.

10-13-2004, 11:02 PM	#70
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	"Being lectured by the president on fiscal responsibility is a little bit like Tony Soprano talking to me about law and order," Kerry said, referring to the murderous mob boss in the U.S. television program "The Sopranos."

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