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Old 05-21-2004, 12:50 PM   #61
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Israels security is Israels problem, not ours
Would that include cash and arms?

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Old 05-21-2004, 01:17 PM   #62
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Israels security is Israels problem, not ours.
Actually, we are quite concerned about Israel's security since we need a firm toe-hold near the oil producing regions of the Middle East.
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Old 05-21-2004, 01:18 PM   #63
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Yes. I don't know how effective a cashless US foreign policy would be worldwide but it would definitely improve our position in the Mid-East. Arms sales would be another question. I'd ban the sale of any weapon system taxpayer money developed but I don't know Radar's position on that.
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Old 05-21-2004, 01:20 PM   #64
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Actually, we are quite concerned about Israel's security since we need a firm toe-hold near the oil producing regions of the Middle East.
That is an oil subsidy. We pull out and alternative energy starts looking better.
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Old 05-21-2004, 01:27 PM   #65
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That is an oil subsidy. We pull out and alternative energy starts looking better.
AMEN. Sing it, Brother...

One of many oil subsidies, by the way.

Solve the energy problem, and all the craziness in the mid-east becomes moot. As I've mentioned in previous threads, the trash to oil program appears to be our salvation. Technology can save us on this one.
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Old 05-21-2004, 01:32 PM   #66
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Yes. I don't know how effective a cashless US foreign policy would be worldwide but it would definitely improve our position in the Mid-East. Arms sales would be another question. I'd ban the sale of any weapon system taxpayer money developed but I don't know Radar's position on that.
I'd be for cutting off all government funded foreign aid to all countries. But I say we can sell weapons, we just can't give them away. And any weapons we make available for one nation to buy must be available for any nation to buy....at the same price. Developing those weapons is expensive, so any time we can get some of that money back, I'm all for it. Any way we can fund the U.S. government without taxing the income of Americans is just fine with me.

Personally I'd like to develop a missile defense system that could not be penetrated and would probably detonate missiles launched over the nation that lauched them. And after I had invented it, I'd send the plans to every nation on earth for free including China, Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, etc. This would take missiles out of the equation and make sure nobody was a "super power" anymore.
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Old 05-21-2004, 05:25 PM   #67
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And any weapons we make available for one nation to buy must be available for any nation to buy....at the same price.
So.....perhaps you guys should sell the Palestinians some tanks? hell even a couple of bulldozers might level the playing field a touch
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Old 05-21-2004, 06:08 PM   #68
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So.....perhaps you guys should sell the Palestinians some tanks? hell even a couple of bulldozers might level the playing field a touch
Hey! An idea whose time has come! Let's sell the Shi'ites some rocket launchers and stand back and watch the fun! Good for the economy, you know?
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Old 05-21-2004, 10:24 PM   #69
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Works for me as long as they can afford them.
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Old 05-21-2004, 11:50 PM   #70
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Of course they can! You think they don't have Saudi and Kuwati backing? What a brilliant idea for the Arab world. We make the weapons, they charge us out the wazzoo for oil; use our money to buy our weapons and destroy us! Who said God isn't a Muslim? Great thinking, Radar!
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Old 05-23-2004, 12:56 PM   #71
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Even some Israelis are starting to see the grotesque similarities between Isreals behaviour in the West Bank and the activities of the Nazis in WW2

BBC News

He stopped short of drawing actual comparisons with the holocaust but the comment is an interesting one coming from a holocaust survivor as it does.
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Old 05-23-2004, 01:17 PM   #72
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That particular quote is going to throw up a shitstorm, fantastic, there was a gret speaker on CNN too about this that really cut through the shit.
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