A case of mistaken orientation

[Pie]

Originally posted by blue58

Why did you say "but, thanks"?

I was flattered by her interest. So I thanked her for the compliment.

- Pie

[blue]

Sorry, I thought you were a guy talking about a guy. Since you're not, this changes everything.

[Pie]

Originally posted by Sun_Sparkz
but if your attracted to WOMEN, wouldnt that make you less atracted to women who look like men? wouldnt you be attracted to women that look like women?

Are there any guys out there who are attracted to masculine women? If so, does this make anyone around them suspicious that they are gay?

I know this girl who is very masculine, and i admit, sometimes... she is attractive to me. but only for her masculine qualities. because i like men. i just dont get it.

I've got this theory. (Everybody: *groan*)
People have two (or more) parameters: sexual self-identity, and sexual attraction.

So "dykes" would self-identify as more male, but would be sexually attracted to women.

A "lipstick lesbian" would self-identify as female, but would be sexually attracted to women, too.

Repeat with men.

Perhaps there's a third axis too -- compatability. Do you get along with a more masculine personality, or a more feminine one?

For the record, I self-identify as more masculine, but am attracted to men... Not "dyke" (I have long hair, love to cook and like jewelry) but have been accused of having more balls than most men.

Is that a bad thing?

- Pie

[elf]

Here's a little twist for you:

Is the question really about masculinity/feminity or does it boil down to Top/bottom?

[Pie]

Originally posted by elf
Here's a little twist for you:

Is the question really about masculinity/feminity or does it boil down to Top/bottom?

I'd say it's really m/f. I know plenty of women who are strong, self-reliant, backbones of the family, and yet are clasically "feminine".

And plenty of men who are lazy, weak and henpecked, but sit on the couch drinking beer, scratch themselves and watch NASCAR.

Mmmmm. Beer.

[jinx]

Originally posted by JeepNGeorge
I've hit on lesbians does that count?

My first really serious boyfriend was/is gay.

[Undertoad]

My sophomore year roommate was/is not only gay, but is now HIV+ living in S.F. and has starred in a few "bear" gay porn movies.

(as "Bill Adams" if anyone is into that scene)

I didn't know until about 3/4ths of the way through our year together, and then I just kinda ignored it.

He never hit on me or anything. No man-love for the toad-boy.

I still love the guy like a brother, deep down in my soul, like an army buddy or something, even though we don't stay in touch much. I feel that way about my freshman year roommate too. Living a whole year with someone and coming out of it not wanting to kill each other, you wind up with a special bond.

[limey]

I was hit on by a lesbian a while back and I, too, said "Thanks but no thanks".

I have also had a long-standing reputation for being a lesbian. This started 10 years ago when a rumour started about my closest [female] friend and I being an item - we decided to play up to it a little (dancing close, flirting in public, that sort of stuff) because we figured that if people were talking about us they wouldn't be talking about someone else (this is a small, gossipy community here on the edge of civilisation). Also I probably "male-identify", am confident (outwardly), self-reliant, outspoken, tall, not a girlie-girl - all of this promoted the dyke image.

Fast forward eight years or so, I'd lived away for six years and recently returned to buy a house and settle here for good. I find that my arrival is bruited abroad here as "That dyke that speaks Russian has bought the house on the hill". This reputation of mine wasn't weakened by the fact that my first two guests here were single women of my own age. When I did walk into my local bar with a male guest one of the regulars said "Good God, limey! You've walked in with a man!!!!!!!!!!". I had already decided that it was time to challenge this reputation of mine and had primed the guy that he was to behave like an ex-boyfriend ....

Not that I care either way, except that to be thought a lesbian when you aren't means you won't get hit oN by guys, except the guys that want to convert you (and that's WIERD !), imo.

[staceyv]

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[limey]

Originally posted by staceyv
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Er .... what?

No, no, unconfused - i just changed the encoding on this page. Благодарю, Стэйси!

[Brigliadore]

speaking it doesn't always mean someone can read it.

[limey]

Originally posted by Brigliadore
speaking it doesn't always mean someone can read it.

Ah, but I can Brigliadore! I just had to change the way I viewed the cellar page.

[ladysycamore]

Originally posted by Clodfobble
Incident #4: Was hanging out at the same bar one Saturday night. It was closing time, and people were leaving. Lesbian and her girlfriend (or friend for the night) walked past, and one of them lightly touched my butt. I turned around, shocked, and she winked at me. (whoa!). I could only laugh, because I was taken off guard. Then I was thinking, "Hell, why can't a MAN do that?!?!?!"

Because they know that in today's society, best case scenario they're probably getting slapped, and worst case their ass would be in prison. Probably getting more than "lightly touched."

Well, I don't know about now, but back then (sometime during the 90s, when the incident happened), I would have been a bit more flattered if a guy (not at the gay bar Bruce!) would have touched my ass! :p

[ladysycamore]

Originally posted by Sun_Sparkz
but if your attracted to WOMEN, wouldnt that make you less atracted to women who look like men? wouldnt you be attracted to women that look like women?

It sounds like you are saying that if you are female, then you should look a certain way.

I know this girl who is very masculine, and i admit, sometimes... she is attractive to me. but only for her masculine qualities. because i like men. i just dont get it.

I would think that you could ask a lesbian who is into the butch types as to why she chooses to be with a female that emulates a man.

[ladysycamore]

Originally posted by JeepNGeorge
Really I'm not gay, Not that theres anything wrong with that.

That was a great story. Glad to see you have such an open mind and a sense of humor about all of that.