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Old 11-17-2014, 03:59 AM   #1
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Old 11-17-2014, 06:23 AM   #2
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Dana - You have to resort to clips from a liberal comedy show based upon political farce to express your views?

Bruce - So if I was as "informed" as you, all my problems would disappear?
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Old 11-17-2014, 07:47 AM   #3
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Dana - You have to resort to clips from a liberal comedy show based upon political farce to express your views?
No. I think I express my views often in here, on a number of issues, often at great length.

I saw that clip and thought of this thread.
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Old 11-17-2014, 08:27 AM   #4
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Dana - You have to resort to clips from a liberal comedy show based upon political farce to express your views?
Sarge, don't dismiss the message because of the messenger. Do you deny that the point is valid, regardless of the source?

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Bruce - So if I was as "informed" as you, all my problems would disappear?
No, Sarge - voting in a Democratic House, Senate, and POTUS will.
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Old 11-17-2014, 09:42 AM   #5
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Bruce - So if I was as "informed" as you, all my problems would disappear?
If it's raining, do you listen to the guy blaming god, or listen to the guy selling umbrellas?
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Old 11-18-2014, 09:01 PM   #6
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What has any elected person ever done that has had a(n):

direct effect on you
was it positive or negative?

indirect effect on you
was it positive or negative?
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Old 11-23-2014, 07:24 AM   #7
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What has any elected person ever done that has had a(n):

direct effect on you
was it positive or negative?

indirect effect on you
was it positive or negative?
I think this deserves its own thread.
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Old 11-22-2014, 06:28 PM   #8
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Although I don't think this is to what you were referring,
I met Gov Corbett in person. Speaking with him and a few members of his administration reinforced my extremely negative opinion off him/them.
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Old 11-23-2014, 06:07 PM   #9
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Speaking with him and a few members of his administration reinforced my extremely negative opinion off him/them.
What did you talk about and why was it so negative?
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Old 11-23-2014, 10:51 PM   #10
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Mostly TBI funding and benefits. Because I was informed and they were full of crap. They all attended the speech to smile and shake hands. They stood there and lied to everyone in the room. Sadly, most of the people there were, like me, well informed on the issues and the BS did not go unnoticed.
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Old 11-25-2014, 09:56 PM   #11
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OH boy ....
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Old 12-04-2014, 11:22 PM   #12
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It's open enrollment season, so I checked how much my company insurance was going to jump this year. For the first time ever the increase is in line with inflation at about 2.5%. Every year for the past 12 it has increased 15 - 20 %

Thanks Obama!
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Old 12-05-2014, 06:51 AM   #13
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This is from the place I just left. Keep in mind that a lot of those folks are living on something under $10 an hour. The format is wonky but the cheaper plan individual rate went down and everything else went up... a lot.

2015 Excellus Plans
2014 EPO K
Bi-weekly 2015 EPO K
Bi-weekly 2014 Simply Blue 40 2015 Simply Blue 40
Individual $132.78 $168.63 $69.88 $53.01
Family $335.04 $426.71 $194.77 $259.39

EPO Option K will have the following coverage:
• $25 co-pay for Office Visits for PCP and Specialist
• $500 Hospital co-pay per admission
• $50 ER Co-pay
• Eyewear Coverage $60/max every two years
• Dependant to Age 26
• $10/$30/$50 Prescription Coverage

Simply Blue Plan will have the following coverage:
• $40 co-pay for Primary Care Office Visits
• $60 co-pay for Specialist Visits
• $750 In-patient co-pay, per day for up to four day max
• $350 Outpatient/Office Surgery
• $350 Surgical Fee, any setting
• $350 ER Co-pay
• Dependant to Age 26
• $7 Generic ONLY Prescription Coverage (if you take a prescription that is not generic, you will be responsible for the full cost)

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Old 12-05-2014, 08:07 AM   #14
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My employer subsidized family plan, which is a very high deductible with a health savings account type of plan, has gone up 0% this year. That has never happened before since I started working here 23 years ago.

Thank you, Obama.
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Old 12-05-2014, 04:53 PM   #15
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Higher paid people pay less for insurance, that is the American way.
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