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11-24-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Aaand Spexxvet retreats, abashed and silent. Happens fairly often.

UG...you mean like you retreated and gone MIA and silent on your claims of Obama/Democrats as socialists....or.....gun control leads to genocide?

Hmmmm..who is the master of not so urbane hit and run guerrilla tactics and unwilling or unable to defend his positions?

Spexxvet · 11-24-2009, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Aaand Spexxvet retreats, abashed and silent. Happens fairly often.

No, I just stopped reading your posts. Except this one.

ZenGum · 11-24-2009, 05:50 PM

Try holding one of UG's posts up to your ear. You can hear the ocean.

Urbane Guerrilla · 11-25-2009, 11:24 PM

Oh no, I've not retreated one step, Redux. I am composing the essay, and it will be devastating to any idea that you can do genocide without gun control in place. This happens sometimes decades in advance. Thus, if you are truly anti-genocide, you will be anti gun control as well. If you are not truly antigenocide, as for instance Spexx is... well, I'm sure you see what I'm driving at.

Whether it arrives instantly or tardily, what is truth is still truth. I know some truth, and you haven't studied. Who's going to have the informed view?

11-26-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Oh no, I've not retreated one step, Redux. I am composing the essay, and it will be devastating to any idea that you can do genocide without gun control in place. This happens sometimes decades in advance. Thus, if you are truly anti-genocide, you will be anti gun control as well. If you are not truly antigenocide, as for instance Spexx is... well, I'm sure you see what I'm driving at.

Whether it arrives instantly or tardily, what is truth is still truth. I know some truth, and you haven't studied. Who's going to have the informed view?

You started composing that essay more than two months ago!

I shall happily demolish your ignorant contention that it's bizarre that gun control should connect to genocide in a following post. It's a routine thing. I have the knowledge at my fingertips, though it does take a little while to compose the essay and supply you with links -- Sept 15, 2009

And I am anxiously awaiting to see how you will make the case that the US democratic system, based on Constitutional checks and balances, including an independent judiciary, is in any way comparable to those authoritative genocidal regimes you like to cite - Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Russia, Pol Pot's Cambodia, Mao's China - with strict gun control where citizens have neither a comparable 2nd amendment right or any such protections.

BTW, you ignored these questions regarding your incessant Obama/socialists charges:

Please explain how temporary bail-outs to address an economic crisis equate to a permanent government take-over of all means of production in the interest of the workers....completely different goals.

Explain how health care reform with a significant reliance (200+ million workers) on the private sector is socialism....as opposed to a single payer, government subsidized system for all.

How is Obama's war in Afghanistan a socialist ideal when a socialist would call for the immediate closing of all U.S. military facilities at home and abroad.

A socialist would also demand the immediate withdrawal from NAFTA....have you seen that in the Obama/Democratic policy statements.

Socialists oppose the IMF, the World Bank, the WTO.....does Obama?

Explain how government environmental regulation is socialism....NOT government ownership of environmental resources as a socialist would support.

How is Obama's support of the Patriot Act representative of socialism?

Should I expect to wait another two months?

Added:
Rule number 1 in political advocacy -- Don't write long-winded essays when you can make the point in a paragraph.

Urbane Guerrilla · 11-29-2009, 12:54 AM

What, are you going on a three-month vacation soon and won't have internet? I said I'd write it, and I will. There's nothing whatever bizarre in the connection between gun control and genocide -- it is observed through numerous genocides that the two correlate. And because of that, one may form a theory of vulnerability to genocide, which may be thought of as a crime done to government specifications, and of vulnerability to crime on the personal level -- both predicate upon victim defenselessness more than anything else.

11-29-2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

What, are you going on a three-month vacation soon and won't have internet? I said I'd write it, and I will. There's nothing whatever bizarre in the connection between gun control and genocide -- it is observed through numerous genocides that the two correlate. And because of that, one may form a theory of vulnerability to genocide, which may be thought of as a crime done to government specifications, and of vulnerability to crime on the personal level -- both predicate upon victim defenselessness more than anything else.

Rule number 2 in political advocacy -- dont attempt to bullshit your way out of corner with gibberish. You might succeed in fooling a naive 15 yr old follower, but not any well informed observer.

classicman · 11-29-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Redux

Rule number 2 in political advocacy -- dont attempt to bullshit your way out of corner with gibberish. You might succeed in fooling a naive 15 yr old follower, but not any well informed observer.

ooooh I've gotta remember that one.

Urbane Guerrilla · 12-01-2009, 07:15 PM

I am following Rule 2 Of Political Advocacy closely. You, Redux, are in for quite an epiphany, it seems. But I really ought, indeed, to get what I promised done before the end of Advent!

I am sure that what persuaded me will in the end persuade you also. I think I may correctly assume genocide is something you do not like?

toranokaze · 12-04-2009, 02:15 AM

I'm calling rule 34 on Redux

classicman · 12-08-2009, 03:38 PM

The republicans aren't the only ones. . .

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ZenGum · 12-08-2009, 06:29 PM

What are those numbers? How many points they are worth?

Clodfobble · 12-08-2009, 06:36 PM

That's their district number, within their home state. These are Congressmen from the House of Representatives, not the Senate.

TheMercenary · 12-08-2009, 07:32 PM

Damm, I thought that was their IQ.

ZenGum · 12-08-2009, 08:32 PM

Which would explain why they are all negative numbers.

11-24-2009, 05:50 PM	#3
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11-25-2009, 11:24 PM	#4
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Oh no, I've not retreated one step, Redux. I am composing the essay, and it will be devastating to any idea that you can do genocide without gun control in place. This happens sometimes decades in advance. Thus, if you are truly anti-genocide, you will be anti gun control as well. If you are not truly antigenocide, as for instance Spexx is... well, I'm sure you see what I'm driving at. Whether it arrives instantly or tardily, what is truth is still truth. I know some truth, and you haven't studied. Who's going to have the informed view? __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

11-29-2009, 12:54 AM	#6
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	What, are you going on a three-month vacation soon and won't have internet? I said I'd write it, and I will. There's nothing whatever bizarre in the connection between gun control and genocide -- it is observed through numerous genocides that the two correlate. And because of that, one may form a theory of vulnerability to genocide, which may be thought of as a crime done to government specifications, and of vulnerability to crime on the personal level -- both predicate upon victim defenselessness more than anything else. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

12-01-2009, 07:15 PM	#9
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	I am following Rule 2 Of Political Advocacy closely. You, Redux, are in for quite an epiphany, it seems. But I really ought, indeed, to get what I promised done before the end of Advent! I am sure that what persuaded me will in the end persuade you also. I think I may correctly assume genocide is something you do not like? __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

12-04-2009, 02:15 AM	#10
toranokaze I'm still a jerk Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Little Mexico Posts: 1,817	I'm calling rule 34 on Redux __________________ "Without deviation from the norm progress is not possible." - Frank Zappa It is the ignorance of ignorance that lead to the death of knowledge The Virgin Mary does not weep for her son, for he is in paradise. She weeps for the world , for we are in suffering.

12-08-2009, 06:29 PM	#12
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	What are those numbers? How many points they are worth? __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

12-08-2009, 06:36 PM	#13
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12-08-2009, 07:32 PM	#14
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Damm, I thought that was their IQ. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

12-08-2009, 08:32 PM	#15
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Which would explain why they are all negative numbers. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

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