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Old 06-16-2008, 07:13 PM   #1
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You do realise you have a sizable moslem community in the US right? Do you think they hate the US as well?
Back in the 1980s my neighborhood was becoming a majority black neighborhood and Moslems began infiltrating the black churches in the neighborhood with the full intent of preaching hatred for all things America in hopes that someday there would be a black/Muslim uprising in this country.

I’ve seen it claimed on the internet that Barak Obama’s former pastor, Jeremiah Wright, used to be a Muslim. And let’s not forget the Islamic Louis Farrakhan.
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:31 AM   #2
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I’ve seen it claimed on the internet that...
ha ha ha that's classic ... best argument ever
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:16 PM   #3
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ha ha ha that's classic ... best argument ever
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.ht...163d4f25c7&p=8

Would you believe The New Republic?

“…Wright was a former Muslim and black nationalist…”
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:16 PM   #4
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First of all, Arabs and Jews are ethnically the same. As Bobby Fischer said when asked if he was anti-Semite, 'I'm not anti-Arab.'
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Old 06-17-2008, 08:37 AM   #5
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First of all, Arabs and Jews are ethnically the same. As Bobby Fischer said when asked if he was anti-Semite, 'I'm not anti-Arab.'

Other than historical tradition, your proof that Jews and Arabs are the same ethnicity is what?
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Old 06-17-2008, 08:54 AM   #6
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The Arabs are the only people that could possibly have an ethnic beef against the Jews (and this is assuming that the Arabs are really descended from Abraham through Ishmael). Islam is not limited to Arabs, but Moslems in general the world over tend to hate the Jews (and by extension the U.S.). The Arabs, “Palestinians”, Syrians, Iranians etcetera are anti-Semitic and anti-American not because they are Arabic, “Palestinian”, Syrian or Iranian, but because they are Islamic.
I disagree. Singapore is an Islamic country but they do not display a great deal of anti-American sentiment. The Middle-Eastern countries have a beef against Israel and this can often lead to a wider sense of anti-semitism. Their problem with Israel is based, however, on a territorial dispute.

I find it rather disturbing that you feel so confident in ascribing specific, racist views to a religion which is so widely followed in the world. There are many moslems who are anti-semitic. There are many Christians who are anti-semitic. There are also many of both who are not.

You accuse them of anti-semitism and in doing so display your own anti-islamic prejudice.
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Old 06-17-2008, 01:54 PM   #7
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I disagree. Singapore is an Islamic country but they do not display a great deal of anti-American sentiment.
Get your facts straight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore
Singapore is not an Islamic country. 51% of the population is Buddhist or Taoist. Only 13.9% is Islamic.
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:24 PM   #8
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I've seen it claimed on the internet that my bananaphone is cellular, modular, interactive-oldular.
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Old 06-17-2008, 03:07 PM   #9
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Get your facts straight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore
Singapore is not an Islamic country. 51% of the population is Buddhist or Taoist. Only 13.9% is Islamic.
You are right lol. I meant Indonesia *rolls eyes*.
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Old 06-17-2008, 03:20 PM   #10
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Funny thing is that when I read your post, I thought "Indonesia" not "Singapore." I guess I was trying to understand you.
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Old 06-17-2008, 08:43 PM   #11
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You are right lol. I meant Indonesia *rolls eyes*.
You still need to get your facts straight.

If you think Indonesia is not anti-American, you are delusional:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...53C1A9679C8B63

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...600442_pf.html

http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/as...als/index.html
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Old 06-17-2008, 03:24 PM   #12
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Same here!
Must be the region and the capital punishment stance.
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Old 06-17-2008, 05:15 PM   #13
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I tell you this: if Britain declared the US revolutionaries in 1776 'illegal combatants', or the like, there would be no United States today.
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Old 06-17-2008, 06:44 PM   #14
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I tell you this: if Britain declared the US revolutionaries in 1776 'illegal combatants', or the like, there would be no United States today.
More or less they did, and it was their downfall as they failed to recognize, initally and prior to 1776, that it was an organized event.
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Old 06-17-2008, 09:26 PM   #15
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More or less they did, and it was their downfall as they failed to recognize, initally and prior to 1776, that it was an organized event.
The combat at Lexington and Concord was pretty much not an organized event. Even if every American that was shooting at the Redcoats at Lexington and Concord were part of the Massachusetts militia, they were not under the command of the colonial governor. They did not have any legal sanction.

After the British made it back to Boston, armed men from other colonies went to Massachusetts to help with the siege. And even when these armed men were adopted as the colonial army by the Continental Congress in June of 1775 they were still illegal because the Continental Congress did not have any legal standing in the international community at that time.
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