Innovating out of global warming

[xoxoxoBruce]

@ Big V. I believe what you say, but you don't seriously think you're normal, do you?
I really don't think you represent the average Joe. You're smarter, more logical, more dedicated and more interested in how you and the world interact. I'll bet you hardly ever mull over whether to throw the empties out before you get to your home hood.

[Hyoi]

Sorry, xo-cubed. Should have said:

Luckily, there are other options in that I wouldn't follow Mr. Gore to the feed store, much less give his solutions (which aren't his to begin with) a second glance. I'll not sweat while he eats ice cream, and mon ami, that is that...........

I like how no one talks much about cutting back on the beef & meat industry.
Methane is 25x the greenhouse gas CO2 is.

If it is such an emergency, then get committed people... they sky is falling, right?
Go vegan... dairy does the same thing!

[glatt]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I like how no one talks much about cutting back on the beef & meat industry.
Methane is 25x the greenhouse gas CO2 is.

If it is such an emergency, then get committed people... they sky is falling, right?
Go vegan... dairy does the same thing!

"When averaged over 100 years each kg of CH4 warms the Earth 23 times as much as the same mass of CO2, however there is approximately 220 times as much CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere as methane."
Wikipedia

While methane is a contributor to global warming, CO2 is a much bigger contributor.

[xoxoxoBruce]

True, cows fart every 30 seconds, times millions of cattle. Termites are still number one though, right up there with swamps. Maybe we should eat termites.

"220 times as much CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere as methane", but how did it get there, how fast is it increasing and why?

Termites are a little sweet with a smoky aftertaste.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Termites are a little sweet with a smoky aftertaste.

Crunchy if you roast them up.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

True, cows fart every 30 seconds, times millions of cattle. Termites are still number one though, right up there with swamps. Maybe we should eat termites.

"220 times as much CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere as methane", but how did it get there, how fast is it increasing and why?

The increase in CO2 got there from fossil fuel use and changes in land use.

How fast is it changing? See graph below. The Earth was going through cycles of ice ages until the beginning of the industrial age, and then the CO2 levels just took off.

[Happy Monkey]

Cows and termites collect carbon from plants and release it into the air. It is eventually reabsorbed by plants, to continue the cycle.

Fossil fuels introduce more carbon into the cycle.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

@ Big V. I believe what you say, but you don't seriously think you're normal, do you?
I really don't think you represent the average Joe. You're smarter, more logical, more dedicated and more interested in how you and the world interact. I'll bet you hardly ever mull over whether to throw the empties out before you get to your home hood.

xoB, thank you for the fine compliment. I am honored. I really am interested, that's true.

As to the empties, heheh...I can remember traveling to other cities and landing in the airport, and having a snack including a bottled or canned beverage at one of the snack shops in the concourse. I looked, and looked and looked for the recycling bins for the bottles and cans, and for the paper, and never found them. I must have really looked the fool carrying my lunch waste from trash can to trash can searching for a place to put the "trash".

On the other hand, maybe the locals just weren't accustomed to seeing so much wool sock through my Birkenstocks.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Cows and termites collect carbon from plants and release it into the air. It is eventually reabsorbed by plants, to continue the cycle.

Fossil fuels introduce more carbon into the cycle.

Not carbon, methane.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by BigV

As to the empties, heheh...I can remember traveling to other cities and landing in the airport, and having a snack including a bottled or canned beverage at one of the snack shops in the concourse. I looked, and looked and looked for the recycling bins for the bottles and cans, and for the paper, and never found them. I must have really looked the fool carrying my lunch waste from trash can to trash can searching for a place to put the "trash".

True to form.....duh. Empties... dead soldiers/sailors....beer cans/booze bottles rolling around the floor of the pickum-up truck.
I honestly believe that never crossed your mind.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by glatt

The increase in CO2 got there from fossil fuel use and changes in land use.

How fast is it changing? See graph below. The Earth was going through cycles of ice ages until the beginning of the industrial age, and then the CO2 levels just took off.

Didn't we go around on that before?
As I recall, cement production is as much a problem as anything.
From here, http://www.technologyreview.com/arti...imatechart.pdf

[xoxoxoBruce]

And this one.

[Griff]

Back to innovations.Terra preta is the dark rich soil that farmers used to make in the Amazon region before the advent of slash and burn agriculture. Apparently, using charcoal instead of ash builds the soil increasing fertility and sequestering carbon. This addresses the ecological disaster of burning vast areas of rainforest and feeds people. win win