"She", not "he", guys

[classicman]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Nor do I think it's fair to all wade in if another poster decides he's going to tear into Ib's sense of self in such a crass and demeaning manner as this thread.

Original post for comparison.

Originally Posted by henry quirk

If he has a penis, is genetically male, then -- despite *self-definition -- he is 'he'.

Yes? No? Opinions?

*that Ibram self-defines as 'girl' is fine by me; that he believes any one else is obligated to address him as a girl (for no other reason than because he wants it that way) is absurd.

Perhaps you read into that OP something that I didn't. I wouldn't define it as crass nor demeaning. But hey, thats just my opinion.

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by Ibram

As far as I know Ibram isn't a real name.

Sure it is. A less common shortening of Ibrahim, and more often a last name, but definitely a male name of Hebrew/Arabic origin. Type it into Google and it suggests at least three famous people with the first name: prolific black rights professor Ibram Rogers, painter Ibram Lassaw, and a well-known fictional character, Ibram Gaunt from Warhammer. It's never been in the top 1000 names in America, but then again, neither has Hyacinth.

[Sundae]

I worked with a pharmacist called Ibrahim in Leicester.
He was called Ibram by people who knew him well.

In fact it was tricky as he was Ibrahim Mohammed*, so to the Muslim community his first name and last name were interchangeable (like Elton John). If someone called and asked to speak to Ibram, at least I knew it was a call he wanted to have put through. When they called to speak to Mohammed I guessed they'd only seen his name on a letterhead.

* I do not feel bad giving his full name as it is similar to John Smith.

[sexobon]

I'm too sexy for my username
Too sexy for my username
But that's just me not you
Boohoo.

[regular.joe]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

I agree completely.

This thread should have been closed at Posts #2 and 3
It wasn't, so Henry Quick wins my award as "Troll of 2012".

Vote number 2 in favor of Henry Quirk as "Troll of 2012". Still a long way to go on the year, he may out do himself, or another semi dweller may up the ante before Xmas. I reserve the right to vote again later in the year.

[infinite monkey]

Yeah, him asking that question (as classic pointed out that's what it was) qualifies him as more troll than merc has been this year.

Oh I love the logic around here. Good groupthink.

[DanaC]

Wtf. Group think?

Damnit. I wasn't going to post in here again, but that got me. Why are the people taking issue with this thread engaged in 'group think' and what, those who argue the opposite are all independent thinkers?

It's always the same. Every time there's an argument or disagreement, you accuse anybody on the other side of that argument from you of engaging in 'group think' or of being 'sheep' or generally being unable or unwilling to think for themselves.

Three or four people on each side of the argument, but one side are just following the group, but the other side all independently arrive in the same place.

ffs.

[infinite monkey]

So you don't agree with my assertion that merc has done much more damage to people this year than henry has? That's just fucking ludicrous and blind.

Who needs it. I suck in every way. Hqve fun in the land of fucking perfect, and I am glad that I could coach you from your moratorium on this thread.

Ffs indeed.

[DanaC]

I didn't say i disagree with that. I just dislike the 'group think' accusation thatgets thrown out every. single. time.

You seriously are accusing Regular Joe of acting on 'group think' ?

Every time.

[DanaC]

I'm not trying to be a bitch with you Inf. It just really galls me that's all. that particular thing. because here we are with various ones of us lecturing each other about courtesy and tolerance, but sweeping away everything the other side has to say as 'group think' is deeply insulting and discourteous imo.

Even to talk about 'sides' is probably disengenuous of me really. \because individual people come to the threads and form their opinions based on their views and what they read and then in their post they position themselves somewhere within the argument.

It's such a totally disregarding thing to say. reminds me of the times I used toget into arguments with J and he'd say 'oh, you've been talking to your Mother again'. Like I coudnt just have come to that opinion myself right?

It's the same thing. But it's every time the argument divides into two rough camps. You always accuse those on the opposing side of the argument of group think.

[sexobon]

Welcome to Judge Sexobon's courtroom.

Today it's the case of:

Monkey see, monkey do, do ,do what you done, done, done before, baby.

[DanaC]

Ah man. I ahould have taken my own advice and stayed out of here.

't'aint worth falling out over, inf:p

[infinite monkey]

I was just going to say I should stay out of this thread too.

I'm sorry regular joe.

I am too close to this in a couple ways.

[infinite monkey]

But I would like to say to sexo that yyouve done that to me before, and maybe you should consider that some of us have vulnerabilities no one hears about. You make me feel like shit when you make snotty comments. Maybe you don't mean it that way.

But my life has been falling apart, I've been falling apart, and for everyone's information henry has been a rock, a friend who really cares. About me, as me, in all my fucked up glory.

There's an awful olot we don't know about each other.

[sexobon]

[Khan]Superior women. I will take them.[/Khan]