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The brilliant Anthony Bourdain explains it
You're a liberal. What should liberals be critiquing their own side for? Quote:
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12-30-2016, 08:07 AM | #62 |
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12-30-2016, 01:31 PM | #63 |
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Aw, you're just saying that because he agrees with you.
Me too.
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12-30-2016, 03:31 PM | #64 |
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I work in a factory with fellow union employees who are conservative republicans and vote republican no matter what, which a lot of times was not in their best interest. (Yet, they would scorn anyone who drove a non Chrysler/Dodge product into the parking lot and even maybe turn it over on its side).
There is absolutely no talking to them about it. None, zip. Its God and country all the way. They are not interested in hearing anything different. I work next to them and sometimes I have tried to say things like since Reagan, unions have been in big trouble because of republican politicians voting yes on bills that are anti-worker/union. These are people who voted republican again even after Indiana passed the right-to-work law. OMG, don't even try to reason with them, they will not listen. I don't try anymore. Yes, I know I am in my own bubble, and I know that it makes me a big outsider to the people I live and work with. I will not talk at all about my ideas, it gets me in trouble around here.
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12-31-2016, 11:55 AM | #65 | |
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I have had co-workers like that - the Narcissist, a huge one -- and it's the most annoying thing in the world.
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Culture > practical considerations, every time And here's a very personal example. If Trump gets rid of the H1B Visa program, I will DOUBLE my salary in a year and be basically set for life. This is not a joke. The H1B Visa program has kind of unfairly targeted my area of expertise, and mainly in big metropolitan areas where I am. In fact it's *one* of the reasons why I wound up shit out of luck a few years back. After the bubble burst we had a combination of 500,000 fewer IT jobs in the country and about 300,000 H1B Visa IT workers still competing for the rest of them. Ask anyone in a big corporation in the NY/SF metro area. "Oh, the IT department? It's like the UN over there. Indians, Chinese, Russians..." Now does that mean I should, very obviously and clearly, vote for Trump? I think you think NOT, right? |
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12-31-2016, 12:16 PM | #66 |
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Exactly how it works for most voters. They seize on one or two issues that directly pertain to them, and dismiss everything else. Even if the candidate only hinted at the issue, or didn't, but their buddy/club/news article said the candidate would.
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12-31-2016, 01:04 PM | #67 |
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Most people seem to believe that "their" candidate secretly agrees with what they believe, and when the candidate claims to be against those beliefs, it's for political reasons or whatever.
To most of my friends, Clinton and Obama were secretly in favor of gay marriage all along. In Clinton's case, right up to 2013. |
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Reagan cut taxes. He said so. So it must have happened. Reality- taxes increased. But that requires learning facts instead of spin. Reagan increased taxes and got so many to *know* he reduced taxes. Doing something completely different from what was said creates the element of surprise. One constantly praises Putin and his ego while doing what? Interesting will be if Trump follows through on his lies. Or does what most every informed politicians is saying - Putin is a threat that must be confronted. Will he do so while still praising Putin? Liars play both sides very well. But only for so long. |
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Via the U.S. Constitution, only Congress has the authority to levy tariffs.
~ Trump will not alter the H1B Visa program. Trump talked to Silicon Valley leaders two weeks ago and he sucked their dicks really hard on TV at the end of it. It was a very surprising, un-Trump moment. (about a minute in, on the video at that link) I'm pretty certain all they asked was please don't change the H1B Visa program. Please make it bigger, if anything, was what they all said. And it's fine, really; I don't know for sure, but I think the H1B Visa program improves America. Even if it doesn't improve my particular place in America. I would not vote for anyone on the basis of what's going to happen to the H1B Visa program and hence I would be considered to be voting "against my best interests". Guess I'm dumb. |
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Thank you P&M! (S'all good, I didn't take it that way!)
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01-02-2017, 09:50 AM | #75 |
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IMO - Trump is either going to be a disaster or a champion for the country.
Right now, I call it at about 70-30 respectively. Keep in mind I predicted Hillary would win in a landslide.
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