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03-16-2017, 05:31 PM | #62 |
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03-16-2017, 05:37 PM | #63 |
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03-17-2017, 11:19 AM | #64 |
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Oh, yeah?
Well... Shut up!!
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03-17-2017, 04:27 PM | #65 |
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There is no popular vote. Thats not the way this works. There are 50 individual state elections where by the electors are chosen to represent the people in those states in voting for the president.
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03-17-2017, 04:55 PM | #66 |
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Come on, you sound like you don't understand what the popular vote is. Saying there is no popular vote is just wrong. We don't elect the President and the Vice President from the result of the popular vote, but that doesn't mean there is no popular vote. Come on.
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03-17-2017, 05:27 PM | #67 |
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I don't know that it's right to say anyone won the popular vote these days when so many people feel they're simply choosing the lesser of two evils.
It's like asking people if they'd rather be locked in a room with a rattlesnake; or, a king cobra. If more people say a rattlesnake, do you say the rattlesnake won a popular vote even though rattlesnakes aren't particularly popular? Seems to be a rather meaningless statistic. |
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And if you tallied up the meaningless votes from each state, wouldn't each state's vote totals be equally meaningless, thus each state's electoral votes also meaningless? Dividing it into states, or not, doesn't make it any more or less meaningful if we're speaking to whether people have valid motivations for voting in a two-party system.
eta: Couldn't it be considered MORE meaningless, by state, whereas people are aware that they are gaming the electoral college system, not voting their individual conscience?
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Within the present system, electoral votes have intrinsic value. There's a known consequence. Not so with the popular vote. Its outcome is too variable to be meaningful in a timely manner.
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You are simply hanging on to the "but she won the popular vote" as if it had some value. She lost TO DONALD FUCKING TRUMP! She IS that AWFUL. It happened. Its real and whining about a meaningless, irrelevant, worthless nothing isn't going to change it. One reason the popular vote is meaningless is because the candidates elections aren't run to win the popular vote. C'mon, you both know this. This isn't hard. You guys sound like children with the "But most of the other kids did it too." excuse. Trump is a douche - we all get that, but please leave this popular vote bullshit alone.
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The popular vote is meaningless when it comes to who won. However, politicians often try to claim that they have a mandate, or that the people support them. Usually, the popular vote and the electoral college are aligned, so this shorthand is valid. In this case it is not.
You might well say that whether they have a mandate or whether the people support them is also irrelevant. Superficially that's true - they're in power either way - but they wouldn't try to claim the mandate if there wasn't some value in having it.
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You know what? F U C K YOU, buddy. Keep your temper tantrums to yourself. Your political philosophy has empowered the most garbage presidency in US history--it must be embarrassing, and I feel sorry for conservatives whose party has been hijacked, but... you guys did it to yourself. Try to pick up another hobby besides still bitching about how much you hate Clinton.
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03-20-2017, 09:57 PM | #75 |
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They're angry, pissed off at the government because of the bullshit they've been hearing about crooked politicians, about government waste, about congressional ownership by lobbyists, about millions to study the sex life of some fucking African frog, about Maplethorpe pissing on Christ and calling it "art". I don't blame them, I am too.
They don't have time to fuck around on the internet finding nuances, they want someone to clean the whole fucking house. That's why they voted for Trump, that's what he promised to do. Sure he promised 76 trombones but at least he was addressing them, and not the east/west coast pansies. They're not bad people, they are fed up.
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