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monster · 10-27-2018, 04:06 PM

yeah that defense is bullshit. "not bad" in that context is a remark on her sex appeal. Outrage and dismissal though? Purlease...

so no, not plausible. But Fired seems harsh. Retraining on whatever we are politically-correctly calling "don't be sexist in the workplace" these days might be more appropriate. It's "Harassment and Something Else Awareness" I think where I work. Dull as dishwater and hours long so you learn appropriate behavior to avoid ever having to do it again.....

Clodfobble · 10-27-2018, 04:20 PM

From what I can tell, he said it live on air, is that correct?

sexobon · 10-27-2018, 04:29 PM

Not that I know of, he's an Editor/Writer. The only times I've seen him on camera were Christmas broadcasts when they panned the staff behind the scenes so they could wave to their families.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-27-2018, 04:40 PM

How did they ascertain the "not bad" was in reference to Ms markle and not the quality of the photograph?

sexobon · 10-27-2018, 05:34 PM

According to the article, he acknowledged the comment was about Markle in his lawsuit; but, denies a sexual connotation.

Clodfobble · 10-27-2018, 05:39 PM

My takes, in order:

1.) He definitely meant to refer to her sex appeal; his defense is typical CYA bullshit.

2.) If he said it on air, I support his firing. If he said it privately to a coworker, I do not. However...

3.) Even in "today's climate," my impression is that such a comment, taken in isolation, is not enough to get someone fired. I suspect they have endured decades of borderline behavior from this person, and are merely jumping at the opportunity to get him now while they can. Or maybe it's plain old age discrimination cloaked as overzealous feminism. Who knows. But I'd bet money there's more to this than a single comment of that caliber.

sexobon · 10-27-2018, 06:02 PM

I think he's up a creek without a paddle using that defense. However, I knew his extended family and his background is a bit different; so, I solicited opinions.

According to the article, he alleges that those who complained have exhibited similar behavior without such repercussion. If that's the case, they wanted to get rid of him for some other reason. I'd guess they wanted to put him out to pasture to make room for someone else. Whether he's been screwing up in his old age; or, was just made a target of opportunity by an opportunist isn't evident from what I've seen so far.

Squawk · 10-28-2018, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexobon

According to the article, he alleges that those who complained have exhibited similar behavior without such repercussion.

That would not surprise me in the least. Sexism is endemic in the workplace in my experience.

Gravdigr · 10-30-2018, 02:27 PM

Would someone please kill me? I'll come to you, you wouldn't have to travel. I'm not brave enough, it seems. I'm a pussy. I'm a big fucking pussy.[/bigfuckingpussy]

glatt · 10-31-2018, 07:14 AM

Nah, I'd miss you.

Clodfobble · 10-31-2018, 08:45 AM

Sorry, Grav, it's a hard pass from me. I want you here and I'm selfish enough to demand it.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-31-2018, 02:23 PM

Fuck you Grav, you ain't goin' nowhere, you'll stay and suffer with the rest of us.

Gravdigr · 10-31-2018, 03:32 PM

What about the people around me, then? I ain't particular.

Bring extra ammo.

Sorry I posted that. Weren't as bad as it sounded. I guess. You guys are cool.

BigV · 10-31-2018, 11:14 PM

waitaminit!

let's *compromise*.

you come on out here and we'll just skip the assisted suicide part.

Come on, what do you say???

Gravdigr · 11-01-2018, 03:24 PM

Oh, I've moved from suicide on to homicide.

Sentence is shorter.

10-27-2018, 04:06 PM	#1
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	yeah that defense is bullshit. "not bad" in that context is a remark on her sex appeal. Outrage and dismissal though? Purlease... so no, not plausible. But Fired seems harsh. Retraining on whatever we are politically-correctly calling "don't be sexist in the workplace" these days might be more appropriate. It's "Harassment and Something Else Awareness" I think where I work. Dull as dishwater and hours long so you learn appropriate behavior to avoid ever having to do it again..... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

10-27-2018, 04:20 PM	#2
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	From what I can tell, he said it live on air, is that correct? __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

10-27-2018, 04:40 PM	#4
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	How did they ascertain the "not bad" was in reference to Ms markle and not the quality of the photograph? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-27-2018, 05:39 PM	#6
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	My takes, in order: 1.) He definitely meant to refer to her sex appeal; his defense is typical CYA bullshit. 2.) If he said it on air, I support his firing. If he said it privately to a coworker, I do not. However... 3.) Even in "today's climate," my impression is that such a comment, taken in isolation, is not enough to get someone fired. I suspect they have endured decades of borderline behavior from this person, and are merely jumping at the opportunity to get him now while they can. Or maybe it's plain old age discrimination cloaked as overzealous feminism. Who knows. But I'd bet money there's more to this than a single comment of that caliber. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

10-30-2018, 02:27 PM	#9
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Would someone please kill me? I'll come to you, you wouldn't have to travel. I'm not brave enough, it seems. I'm a pussy. I'm a big fucking pussy.[/bigfuckingpussy] __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

10-27-2018, 04:29 PM	#3
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Not that I know of, he's an Editor/Writer. The only times I've seen him on camera were Christmas broadcasts when they panned the staff behind the scenes so they could wave to their families.

10-27-2018, 05:34 PM	#5
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	According to the article, he acknowledged the comment was about Markle in his lawsuit; but, denies a sexual connotation.

10-27-2018, 06:02 PM	#7
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	I think he's up a creek without a paddle using that defense. However, I knew his extended family and his background is a bit different; so, I solicited opinions. According to the article, he alleges that those who complained have exhibited similar behavior without such repercussion. If that's the case, they wanted to get rid of him for some other reason. I'd guess they wanted to put him out to pasture to make room for someone else. Whether he's been screwing up in his old age; or, was just made a target of opportunity by an opportunist isn't evident from what I've seen so far.

10-31-2018, 07:14 AM	#10
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Nah, I'd miss you.

10-31-2018, 08:45 AM	#11
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Sorry, Grav, it's a hard pass from me. I want you here and I'm selfish enough to demand it. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

10-31-2018, 02:23 PM	#12
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Fuck you Grav, you ain't goin' nowhere, you'll stay and suffer with the rest of us. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-31-2018, 03:32 PM	#13
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	What about the people around me, then? I ain't particular. Bring extra ammo. Sorry I posted that. Weren't as bad as it sounded. I guess. You guys are cool. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

10-31-2018, 11:14 PM	#14
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	waitaminit! let's compromise. you come on out here and we'll just skip the assisted suicide part. Come on, what do you say??? __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

11-01-2018, 03:24 PM	#15
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Oh, I've moved from suicide on to homicide. Sentence is shorter. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

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