The Gender Equality Checkpoint - Page 47

xoxoxoBruce · 07-23-2017, 10:49 PM

Women Parliamentarians of Iran in front of the gate of the Iranian Parliament , mid 1970s. Thank Allah that threat is gone.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-09-2017, 12:20 AM

Why is it always the pretty ones that shoot me down?

OK, I misspelled fighter, exciting women do that to me, so shoot me.. wait no, don't shoot.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-21-2017, 12:49 AM

Ah yes, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol...

Gravdigr · 12-21-2017, 01:44 PM

Well, sure, ya don't get stopped, ya don't get raped.

Seems legit.

Gravdigr · 12-21-2017, 01:50 PM

~~His~~ That statement is taken somewhat out of context:

He wasn't responding to a question such as "What should women do to not get raped during a traffic stop?" He's responding to a "What should I do during a traffic stop?"-type question.

That whole post is almost 'fake news'.

Gravdigr · 12-21-2017, 01:56 PM

Skewed, at best.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-21-2017, 03:48 PM

Not really, being the spokesperson for the Oklahoma Highway Patrol, he was being interviewed by the TV station because of the numerous allegations and three convictions against his troopers for sexual assault and rape of women at traffic stops. Think how hard it is to convict a cop of anything.

If you weren't breaking the motor vehicle laws you wouldn't get raped, c'mon.
I don't know if coming out with that statement was an attempt to avoid the issue or he's clueless of how serious the problem is, or just extremely bad taste humor.

DanaC · 12-22-2017, 09:37 AM

Flint · 12-22-2017, 01:15 PM

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xoxoxoBruce · 01-04-2018, 01:31 AM

In the beginning...

xoxoxoBruce · 01-08-2018, 12:25 AM

Algeria gets it... put them bitches to work so we poke the hookah and drink coffee.

DanaC · 02-06-2018, 04:37 PM

This does not help:

Quote:

Martha led an anti-street harassment campaign while at university in Nottingham.

It led to misogyny being made a hate crime in the city.

"Women now feel safer on the streets of Nottingham. They can walk with their head held high.
"It doesn't mean these things aren't going to happen anymore, but if they do the police are going to act and take it seriously."

Officers in the city now define misogynistic hate crime as "behaviour targeted towards a woman by men simply because they are a woman".

That includes things like wolf-whistling and cat-calling.

"I think it's very easy to say this is the end of flirting, but I don't think that's true," says Martha.

"I think if you're flirting in a way which you feel might be touchy ground, then you're flirting in the wrong way."

Martha ran around 40 training sessions for police on misogynistic harassment and now wants the rest of the UK to follow suit.

This is from an article on the BBC news site looking at what today's 'suffragettes' are up to. Much of which is laudable - like anti FGM work - but making catcalling a fucking hate crime?

Jesus wept.

This:

Quote:

Officers in the city now define misogynistic hate crime as "behaviour targeted towards a woman by men simply because they are a woman".

Is insane.

It didn't need a new law. There are already laws in place to deal with a broad category of anti-social or lewd acts - if someone is shouting 'show us your tits' at schoolgirls, then the broad category of 'breach of the peace' or 'causing a disturbance' could come into effect.

It's not a criminal offence (in England anyway - not sure about Scotland) nothing goes on your record. But the police can arrest you. You get a warning and agree not to do it again. If you break that agreement in a given period you have committed an offence.

Breach of the peace/disturbance is already suitably vague and broad to be able to cover a frightening amount of stuff without adding another terrifyingly vague legal definition with much more serious consequences.

Rest of the article (some of which highlights really important work)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-42949970

xoxoxoBruce · 02-06-2018, 06:44 PM

Agreed.

Happy Monkey · 02-06-2018, 08:09 PM

With one caveat - the pre-existing laws pre-existed.

ie, they did not perform the function this law is intended to perform. That's not to say that this one will, either, as it is also vague, but saying that the police could apply existing law in a certain way to achieve the desired result doesn't help if they don't.

The problem seems to have been that the police didn't take the issue seriously. Would the 40 training sessions have been enough to fix that, if they weren't accompanied by a law that also made the offense more serious?

(not a rhetorical question)

xoxoxoBruce · 02-06-2018, 09:56 PM

If the training sessions don't cause them to act, it doesn't matter which law they're not enforcing, so there's no need for a new one.

07-23-2017, 10:49 PM	#1
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Women Parliamentarians of Iran in front of the gate of the Iranian Parliament , mid 1970s. Thank Allah that threat is gone. Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-09-2017, 12:20 AM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Why is it always the pretty ones that shoot me down? OK, I misspelled fighter, exciting women do that to me, so shoot me.. wait no, don't shoot. Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-21-2017, 12:49 AM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Ah yes, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol... Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-21-2017, 01:44 PM	#4
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Well, sure, ya don't get stopped, ya don't get raped. Seems legit. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off. Last edited by Gravdigr; 12-21-2017 at 01:54 PM.

12-21-2017, 01:50 PM	#5
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	~~His~~ That statement is taken somewhat out of context: He wasn't responding to a question such as "What should women do to not get raped during a traffic stop?" He's responding to a "What should I do during a traffic stop?"-type question. That whole post is almost 'fake news'. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

12-21-2017, 01:56 PM	#6
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Skewed, at best. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

12-21-2017, 03:48 PM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Not really, being the spokesperson for the Oklahoma Highway Patrol, he was being interviewed by the TV station because of the numerous allegations and three convictions against his troopers for sexual assault and rape of women at traffic stops. Think how hard it is to convict a cop of anything. If you weren't breaking the motor vehicle laws you wouldn't get raped, c'mon. I don't know if coming out with that statement was an attempt to avoid the issue or he's clueless of how serious the problem is, or just extremely bad taste humor. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-22-2017, 01:15 PM	#9
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01-04-2018, 01:31 AM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	In the beginning... Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-08-2018, 12:25 AM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Algeria gets it... put them bitches to work so we poke the hookah and drink coffee. Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-06-2018, 06:44 PM	#13
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Agreed. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-06-2018, 08:09 PM	#14
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	With one caveat - the pre-existing laws pre-existed. ie, they did not perform the function this law is intended to perform. That's not to say that this one will, either, as it is also vague, but saying that the police could apply existing law in a certain way to achieve the desired result doesn't help if they don't. The problem seems to have been that the police didn't take the issue seriously. Would the 40 training sessions have been enough to fix that, if they weren't accompanied by a law that also made the offense more serious? (not a rhetorical question) __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

02-06-2018, 09:56 PM	#15
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	If the training sessions don't cause them to act, it doesn't matter which law they're not enforcing, so there's no need for a new one. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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