Does Anyone feel like Bailing

Originally Posted by classicman

Some of these are already done and waiting for weather, permits and such. From what I have heard, the engineers have already done their part.

In the case of the infrastructure funds, as an example, nearly all the funds go through the states.

It is not like Joe the Plumber can say he is now Joe the Road Builder and has a shovel ready project and "where's my check"?

It is not an issue of weather or permits but more a matter of the states first agreeing to accept the funds (they have until April 3 to notify the White House), then submitting various forms, including prioritizing the projects and other compliance details.

If the infrastructure funding is coming through DOT, the states have these compliance certifications.

All of this is to satisfy readiness, prioritization and (for Merc) transparency!

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

http://www.stimuluswatch.org/

http://news.stimuluswatch.org/post/7...d-in-the-press

These are the "wish lists" from cities across the country compiled by the US Conference of Mayors. None of these are on any "approved" list.

Each governor still has to prioritize, deny many of those on the lists and provide that certification and transparency to the feds.

[TheMercenary]

http://www.stimuluswatch.org/

http://news.stimuluswatch.org/post/7...d-in-the-press

[TheMercenary]

Yea, it is a pretty good way to see how they are wasting money trying to create a few jobs.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Yea, it is a pretty good way to see how they are wasting money trying to create a few jobs.

LOL

You scream "where's the transparency" when there was clearly no transparency issue to anyone other than you (the still ongoing transparent deliberations in Congress on the Obama 2010 budget proposal and the threat of reconciliation) and you mock transparency when it exists in the stimulus bill.

About what I expected.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

LOL

You scream "where's the transparency" when there was clearly no transparency issue (the deliberations on the Obama 2010 budget proposal and the threat of reconciliation) and you mock transparency when it exists in the stimulus bill.

About what I expected.

Actually, no in this exchange we we talking about jobs and I said were are the jobs and where are the "shovel ready" jobs that Obama promised. They are no where.

So you are ok spend hundreds of thousands for a few jobs? Who pays when the money runs out?

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Actually, no in this exchange we we talking about jobs and I said were are the jobs and where are the "shovel ready" jobs that Obama promised. They are no where.

So you are ok spend hundreds of thousands for a few jobs? Who pays when the money runs out?

I dont think reasonable people expected, nor did Obama promise, millions of jobs in the first 30-60 days after the bill's enactment.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

I dont think reasonable people expected, nor did Obama promise, millions of jobs in the first 30-60 days after the bill's enactment.

Really? Tell it to the unemployed.

[TheMercenary]

I have no problem with our impasse. It is an expected end.

[TheMercenary]

Ha, ha, ha... you so funny. Oy, and clever too.

[sugarpop]

Redux, my understanding is those CC regs don't take effect until 2010. Why the hell can't they pass something that will take effect immediately and give people some relief from these loan sharks?

I heard on CNN last night that 1000 jobs were created for something, but since I was half asleep I can't remember what the jobs were.

Originally Posted by sugarpop

Redux, my understanding is those CC regs don't take effect until 2010. Why the hell can't they pass something that will take effect immediately and give people some relief from these loan sharks?....

sugar...its not that easy, particularly if the Senate Republicans block it (the full Senate hasnt voted on it yet).

Even in the best case scenario, it would still require months for the Dept of Treasury to draft the regulations and then at least 90 days for public comments.

But you have to start somewhere.

[classicman]

Its almost like a drag race in a tank.

[classicman]

California road projects
Caltrans adopts a list of 57 transportation projects totaling $625 million to be the first in line to receive federal infrastructure money.

Getting started in California

A list of 57 transportation projects totaling $625 million has been adopted by Caltrans as the first in line to receive federal infrastructure money. The projects include:

$75 million to repave three miles of rough pavement on Interstate 710 in Los Angeles.

$50 million to help reconstruct Doyle Drive, the southern access to the Golden Gate Bridge.

$46.7 million to replace two aging bridges on Highway 99 in Merced County.

$17 million to rehabilitate a stretch of Highway 99 in Butte County.

$16.8 million to construct two new lanes on Interstate 805 in Chula Vista to ease traffic congestion.

$13 million to replace the Russian River Bridge in Mendocino County near Ukiah.

13 Million to replace a bridge ... that seems like too little. guess its a tiny bridge or something ...
75 Million for 3 miles of road? Is it just me or does that sound a bit excessive?

[piercehawkeye45]

Nope.

It cost $234 million to rebuild the I35W bridge.

[classicman]

That sounds more like it - this one is only 13 million. I don't know the specifics about either one...